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  1. #121
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    One thing still boggles my mind a bit regarding two of the abilities we have available to us through alternate advancement from luclin. What is the point of double riposte and return kick if we can stand in front of a mob?



    Warriors got a few cool alternate abilites with pop, rogues got shroud and other than that screwed and we really got nothing as monks. Six points max hit, six points max fk and technique of wu is kinda lame in comparision to the powerfull spells that casting classes received as upgrades. For the most part pure melee was ignored, and monks were nerfed on top of it.



    We used to be the class that could fight from all angles without worry. I for one never thought of myself as a tank and still don't. If they are going to leave our defense level at a 39 druid then throw us a bone and have an aa ability where we disregard all ripostes. This would allow us to once again not be stuck behind a mob hoping it does not turn on us. It's kinda crazy from what I have seen in pop so far, melee mobs hitting upwards of 3200, mobs that proc a 5k lifetap, other crazy abilities there would have been no way with our hps hovering above 7k we would have been able to tank any of these mobs even without the nerf.



    On another topic, how is it that we havent had an upgrade to feign death. How hard would it be for fd to actually work regardless if 10 caster mobs were trying to get you. We can't escape, we can't shroud around the zone unseen how about a little bone and upgrade our fd.



    I truly believe that monks and rogues damage tables need to be looked at and raised a decent amount. We play a pure melee for a reason, and all I would like to see is us balanced aginst the damage increases given to the other classes.



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  2. #122
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    I am not a non-monk. I do have a monk. However it is only at 26th level. So guess what... that means I'm affected by this nerf as well. But ya know what, I just changed how I play. Took me all of two seconds to do that.



    But you obstinate, arrogant, cry babies keep whining and whining and whining... did I say whining already? That's ALL you seem to be doing. I see it on these boards, I hear it in the game, and even some of my RL friends whine about it during the EQ game I run using the Pen and Paper book.



    It's about freaking time that you stopped acting like little children who got their pacifier taken away and grow up. The nerf happened. The nerf is never going to completely go away. WE will never ever be able to solo effectively as we once did.... which is GOOD. It *is* a good thing.



    ~Aly

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  3. #123
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    Aly, what was your purpose in posting to this thread? If you dont want to hear discussions about this issue then don't read this part of the board, simple. You are whining just as bad as anyone else here now.


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  4. #124
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    However it is only at 26th level. So guess what... that means I'm affected by this nerf as well. But ya know what, I just changed how I play.





    Dont worry, we all changed how we play. Unfortunately you are part of what we call the "insignificant" masses. Insignificant because you haven't yet experienced anything that might cripple you. You pulled in Tov right Pre nerf and after nerf right? You just "CHANGED" the way you played and those wyverns weren't killing you in 2 rounds right?



    Then please enlight the community on what those uber playing changes are. I mean, if it works for a pathetic level 26 twink, it has to work for everyone!


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  5. #125
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    A level 26 twinked monk isn't going to feel the nerf at all. I'm twinked now at 31, and I haven't noticed the nerf much yet, either. Actually, let me rephrase that: My twinked 31 monk plays just like my first nontwinked monk did, meaning all the gear I have is compensating for the nerf.



    If you don't want to see the "whining," don't come here. With the exception of a few immature posters, the majority of us aren't whining so much about the nerf as the total lack of feedback. I pay for this game with my own money. As a paying customer, I deserve to know more about the changes to the product I pay for than "We'll get around to looking into it." THAT'S why we're pissed.



    And personally, yes, I AM quitting until SOE gets some intelligent people working for them.




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  6. #126
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    Dear High-Strung Rogue,



    On behalf of all the real monks, would you please stop whining? You whine about monks you wont group with, you whine about this messageboard, you whine about your monk "friends" while playing pen and paper something or other. Really, when is all going to end? I'm awfully sorry that our discussions tax your coping skills beyond their capabilities. Maybe you could take another two seconds and adjust to people not sharing your opinions?



    Thank you and have a spiffy day.




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  7. #127
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    Monks can't tank anymore? I just finished a 6 hour run tanking the mobs in LCY and RCY (PoD) and the only time I needed to stop for the cleric to med was during rebuff time. Since PoP has come out, the majority of my time is spent as it was before the nerf.



    I solo (quad box 57 Druid, 57 Necro, 61 Ench, and 61 Monkey) and can camp at any of the normal camps in PoP. Treants/spiders/stalkers in PoN, any mobs that I've seen in PoI including the wimpy Tin Soldiers or the archaic models and I rarely have any trouble with mana on the druid for heals (I just got him 58 so I'm pretty excited to find out how dr00d CH does <img src=http://www.ezboard.com/images/emoticons/smile.gif ALT=":)">



    So after reading all these posts about how we are useless I went back to old world to see how I did against mobs that I had fought before the nerf... yup, still easy to take any of the old camps that I had done before.



    So if it is really as bad for you folks as you have stated here then it is past time to upgrade from leather armor <img src=http://www.ezboard.com/images/emoticons/smile.gif ALT=":)"> My equip is not all that special, I've never been in an uber raid guild, I think my most prized armor piece is my 30ac earring from UP, but the rest is easily obtainable from searchin through the goodies in bazaar.



    That being said, I'd love to see an increase in my damage tables. I think that is one area we are hurting in compared to the other class upgrades, but is it really bugging me? Not really... sure would be nice though <img src=http://www.ezboard.com/images/emoticons/smile.gif ALT=":)">



    Anyway, I've been reading all these posts for the past week and finally broke down and had to give my 2cp. Heh I'm sure I'll be flamed by all those folks that like to read posts and find things they can pick on, but really, quit worrying soo much and go back to enjoying the game. If you feel the nerf has ruined the game for you then quit. I'm not saying this cause I'm tired of hearing about it (I know I don't have to read these boards), I'm saying this because life is too short to be soo upset by changes to a game. Yup, thats true, ask anyone <img src=http://www.ezboard.com/images/emoticons/smile.gif ALT=":)">



    Now, for those that don't take my advice.... FLAME AWAY! <img src=http://www.ezboard.com/images/emoticons/wink.gif ALT=";)">



    Kikkin Shudoshi

    61 Tank err I mean Monkey



    P.S. If your on Mithaniel Marr and you want a group look me up, I will always accept a monk in my group if there is room <img src=http://www.ezboard.com/images/emoticons/smile.gif ALT=":)">






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  8. #128
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    <blockquote>Quote:<hr> I solo (quad box 57 Druid, 57 Necro, 61 Ench, and 61 Monkey) <hr></blockquote> This is soloing? <img src=http://www.ezboard.com/images/emoticons/roll.gif ALT=":rollin">


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  9. #129
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    <blockquote>Quote:<hr>Kikki wrote:

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    I solo (quad box 57 Druid, 57 Necro, 61 Ench, and 61 Monkey)<hr></blockquote>



    Damn, if the above is what some people call 'soloing' these days, then I guess no class can claim soloing is impossible.



    /sigh


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    I spent over 40 days building a shaman on a second box to 60. Even with 75% slows, it takes 50% mana per mob in PoI for me. That is kind of crazy. Not even worth it.



    I can solo the mob with my shaman more effeciently. When a melee class ceases to be a boon, and instead becomes a mana drain, something is wrong with game balance.


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  11. #131
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    <blockquote>Quote:<hr>Aly, what was your purpose in posting to this thread? If you dont want to hear discussions about this issue then don't read this part of the board, simple. You are whining just as bad as anyone else here now. <hr></blockquote>



    Because I'm tired of hearing it in the game... I'm tired of hearing it from my friends. And yes, I've told my friends to shut the hell up too. My ignore list is only 30 people long and there's far more monks that whine about the nerf than my ignore list is long.



    As for being twinked, ah... no. I have almost no platinum at all. My monk was wearing raw silk still, with the Shestar's Scaled Coif you make in Cabilis. The only twink item I had on the monk, was a Stave of Shielding that I won in a group in Chardok.



    I sold it recently to fund some needed upgrades for my rogue so my monk is back to wielding fist and an Essence of Dol that was a gift from a friend. So no, I am not twinked... nor am I able to solo as effectively as before.



    Doesn't matter to me though, I just stopped soloing and group with friends now. I'll make a druid or a beastlord if I want to solo.



    I only read this section of the message board every now and then... and I only glanced at this post cause it was started by Absor. However, it quickly degenerated into the whining useless load of data that most on Monkly Business has become.



    Even in the General section, whiny monks still complain and make jabs at the nerf. This entire board is tainted with everyones arrogant 'fix this now!' bull crap.



    Monkly Business used to be where I would point people with monk questions. Now they're prolly better served going to the Newbie Zone or asking on their server message board.



    Too bad the developers can't take care of this eyesore like they took care of the old GenDis.



    ~Aly


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  12. #132
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    Doesn't matter to me though, I just stopped soloing and group with friends now.



    If you're as big a bitch in game as you seem to be here, you might want to look into building a second machine and getting one of those free account keys that Verant is handing out.







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    <blockquote>Quote:<hr>AlyssiaLaterose

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    I'm tired of hearing it from my friends. And yes, I've told my friends to shut the hell up too. <hr></blockquote>



    You STILL have friends in game? I find that hard to believe. Also, bitching about Class Whining is funny coming from a Rogue. All I ever see of the Safehouse is thread after thread of how Melee Class <insert here> is encroaching on a Rogue's DPS, and thus a Rogue's DPS needs uping; or how unfair it is that all other classes gear is better than a Rougue's. (oh, but I forget, you may see such comments as 'valid' and 'worthy' of VI's attention, since it is a Class Balance issue, and Rogue's have always been underpowered, correct?)



    If you don't want to hear about it by all maens DON'T COME HERE. I hope your class NEVER has to go through what we are going through now. However, please do me a big favor and go back to the Safehouse and elighten them with your words of wisdom.


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  14. #134
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    /RUDE Alyssia



    Not that I wouldn't understand you, I play a lvl 1 rogue as well, but still.



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    Yes I still have friends. I have to shuffle my friends list around because I have more than 30. Not being in a guild means you have to make friends to get anything done. And before you even jump on that... I am guildless by choice.



    I don't visit the Safehouse much either. The usefullness of that site to me dried up more than a few months ago as I realized the mods are just egotistical pinheads that run the site for their own ego boost and elite status it grants them.



    I could care less about DPS... I could care less about the viability of monk solo or rogue solo.... all that matters to me is they keep the game fun. Solo'ing wasn't that much fun... it was something to do when I didn't want to deal with other people in the game.



    I can still solo with my monk... heck I could go solo greens for plat or what not with the rogue.



    The classes are not balanced, nor will they ever be. Verant, SoE, VIE, whatever you want to call them, can only attempt to get them somewhat balanced. I think the new massive heals druids and shamans are getting are a good step towards this.



    Monk nerfing is another. It means if you want a tank, you get a pally, sk, or warrior. Not a monk. This is for XP GROUPS, not raids. Who gives a flying rats arse about raids... monks don't tank on raids.



    Monks pre-nerf were the tank of choice for most of the XP groups I got invited into. Now they're damage dealers and pullers, which is right where they should be.



    If you're that worried about a few points of DPS... or how long you have to stay FD'd during a fight... cause mobs are hitting you a little harder, then you should really re-think why you play this game in the first place.



    ~Aly



    P.S. SkyKungfu... stfu. I do play a monk. It's not uber high level twinked with loads of gear... which means... GUESS what! I am hit by the nerf moron.


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    Look ~Aly



    Your posts do nothing here but Troll.



    This whine will not change what you have to put up with ingame. All it has done is make you look bad. You are better off just stopping with this now.



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  17. #137
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    Default Re: go home Aly

    I feel your pain, thanks for enlightning us oh great one.



    Sky



    PS: There is no doubt that you have a lot of friends, you have such a charming behaviour who could resist that? I for sure would appreciate it to have friends like you.


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  18. #138
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    You guys need to get a clue. Everyone is tired of hearing the monks whine, whine, whine. Get over it! We're nerfed. Suck it up. Move on.



    I don't treat my friends like I treat you pathetic, wet-nosed, sniveling whiffs. I have friends throughout many different guilds of all tiers. I have these friends because I know what my class can do and cannot do and I don't whine about it.



    I play my class well. And people remember that. They also remember monks that whine.



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  19. #139
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    You might suck it up and stop whining about our complains to the unneeded, undeserverd and poorly implemented monk nerf and the ignorance of Sonys CS. Even SOE noticed by now that the nerf was wrong that way, just idiots stick with it, espacally when they got hit by it. If you dont lie, enjoy your masochistic passion in RL and leave us allone, would you.



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    aly ... i agree there is a lot of whining virtually out of hand and tottaly non constructive ... ill grant you that ... i agree there is alot of dead ended useless discussions being over played like any top 40 song on the radio (dps c'mon guys give it a break) ... ill grant you that ... i agree there is alot of inate and useless dicussion concerning issues that have absolutely no bearing on the nerf period (who can do what better than whom) ... and useless paranoia and speculation



    however you are hardly at a level to even begin to fathom, at 26, the signficance and depth of this nerf wait till you hit 36 and the game starts to change ... wait till you hit 50+ when things start gettting serious ... when you have 60+ to look forward to and tell us that the nerf means nothing, and that we aren't right in raising a ruckus over it. can you even begin to understand or define the point or purpose of it? ... granted ill give you a little lee way here if since your sole experience w/ the nerf is base on what you have read here.



    yes we have lost and clouded the issue w/ so much bs ... ill grant you that ... the issue is, that since the nerf (cause by a self perpetuated short sightedness on SOE's part) in the post 50 game, unless you have very high sta/hp (usually a boon gained thru uberness) as a class monks are hard pressed to perform the function within the scope and understanding that the communinty at large has come to expect of the class, and that has come about because of the fundamental differences of those expectations and SOE's.



    the point is that SOE reacted to a set of circumstances without thinking them thru completely relying on a set of specialized circumstances and on numerical data that failed to take into account the virtually unlimited variables supplied simply by the mere fact that no 2 monks are, whether equiped the same or not, played the same, nor are they nescessarily played within the scope that SOE has defined for the class, then make sweeping changes that not only effect the way that monks play but how everyone else plays too



    whining about it i agree is out of hand and resolves nothing ... but then neither does your post ... i agree that i really dont give a shit about who can out damage whom ... but what i do care about is having fun ... it is not fun dieing virtually everytime i play at least once ... its not fun spending an hr + trying to find a group ... its not fun trying to solo grns and have your ass handed to you for nothing but a couple pp and no xp and not even be able to consider lt blus that you easily soloed pre nerf



    this is what its all about and this is what has the community at large upset not just monks alone as others have said ... if ya dont like it dont come here and dont read it. if you dont have anything constructive to say dont say anything ... you have your way of playing and i have mine ... am i better than you no ... but niether are you better than i ... so you actually have made yourself the arrogant 1 in these discussions ... acting as tho you are better than anyone else here, think again ... or rather since thinking is what brought you here ... stop thinking


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    A lot of your concerns, about dying, about trying to find a group... I have to deal with that as a rogue. There are far too many rogue twinks on my server, it's hard to get a group these days. I started the monk to go solo stuff when the rogue couldn't get a group.



    Well... with Luclin zones, I found a couple places I could solo if need be or duo with a healer or paladin friend for great XP. And monks are still wanted in groups at those levels for damage and pulling because a lot of people betwee 26 - 40 still don't understand the monk nerf.



    My monk WAS hit by the nerf. Even at 26. I had been soloing goblins in SolA for XP during non-primetime hours on my server. I could FD split a couple goblins from some areas and kill them no problem. Now I have to split just one and then bind wounds and regen health before going for the second one.



    It takes me longer, but I still enjoy the game. I have had to shelve my monk though because I sold all the gear on it to upgrade the rogue because of the lack of coin loot in the planes. Since freaking casters won't let pure melee roll on parchments (which is another gripe altogether).



    <blockquote>Quote:<hr> its not fun trying to solo grns and have your ass handed to you for nothing but a couple pp and no xp and not even be able to consider lt blus that you easily soloed pre nerf <hr></blockquote>



    Welcome to the life of a rogue. I was trying to kill 'a wooly rhino' in EW today. I killed one. It was green... I tried killing a light blue, and died. I have great weapons, but my armor isn't the greatest. Ever since about level 20, I have not been able to solo mobs at all as a rogue, unless they were more than 10-20 levels lower than me.



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    Aly,



    Correct me if I'm wrong since a rogue is one of the few classes I've not played seriously but; hasn't the rogue situation only improved since it's inception? IIRC, and I may be wrong, but iirc rogues have had nothing but imps since they strode out into Norrath. They needed the help, there was little doubt about that and I am glad to have every rogue in my raid force.



    Anyway, if I am correct and the rogues have never been "adjusted" down since they began, then your comparison of monks and rogues is inherently flawed. We did not have to lfg. That was one of the class's main attractions. It was that way from a long way back too, even as a ghetto fist wielding, non fungi-wearin human I was able to solo certain mobs in certain spots.



    Monks were in fact the melee casters with the SK being the next choice. Now rangers may be a bit better than SKs at given power levels and with certain gear options, but neither the SK nor the ranger are a hybrid. A monk was always a melee only character.



    If your problem is that monks were able to do that at all... well then you can (and did) create one and that's a whole different argument.


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  23. #143
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    <blockquote>Quote:<hr>Welcome to the life of a rogue. I was trying to kill 'a wooly rhino' in EW today. I killed one. It was green... I tried killing a light blue, and died. I have great weapons, but my armor isn't the greatest. Ever since about level 20, I have not been able to solo mobs at all as a rogue, unless they were more than 10-20 levels lower than me.<hr></blockquote>



    *sigh*



    For the 100 millionth time, if you had ever in your wildest dreams wanted any ability to solo, why would you have started a rogue in the first place? Your core ability relies on someone else having aggro.



    Was that true for monks? NO. Many, many monks started their character because it was the only melee with some form of solo ability. Play style or RL restrictions dictated picking a class where they could get on for an hour or so and still get something done. They invested 2-3 years in their character, with that base soloability in mind, and its been arbitrarily taken away.



    Is it fair to rogues and warriors who could never solo (without appropriate gear)? Who cares? If you wanted to solo you didn't make a warrior or rogue - period. Soloability is not indicative of class power - its just that certain classes are tailored better for the skills that soloing requires.



    And one more time...



    <blockquote>Quote:<hr>Welcome to the life of a rogue. <hr></blockquote>

    Exactly. 100% exactly right. We are now a subclass of rogues. We do good damage, but not nearly as good as rogues. We also tank worse than rogues now (as STATED by SOE, not just an opinion), so that part of our role has been erased.



    With the rapidly diminishing role of FD pulling, our new job is just that - Rogue-Lite.



    And you still wonder why we are complaining?




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    Playing a 53 monk, and having my son next to me playing a 60 rouge, I can assure you he has has had a he** of a lot easier to get groups since he hit 50 than I have.

    It's not uncommon for him to turn on LFG and rigt away get an invite to go to some high lev dungeon. Often from ppl he has never met.



    As others have said, you should realize that playing a 26 monk gives you NO idea of what it's like to play at higher levels. Wait til you are 50+ then come back here and tell us wich character is most wanted in a group, the monk or the rogue. Then you will realize why soloing is necessary for a monk.






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  25. #145
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    We can fish while FD.



    That is the new monk role per the 'vision'.



    And you guys are complaining? Listen to Aly. She knows!



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  26. #146
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    Default Ahhh, let's see . . .

    I play a 51 monk on Ayonae Ro that I loved. I read thes boards a lot, though I don't post much. I still like my monk a lot, but I'm having trouble with the lack of role monks now have. I think the Rogue Lite comment is perfect.



    Sooooo . . . our guild having a need, I started a Dwarf Rogue the other night, and do you know what??? When the screen came up at the end of the creation sequence . . . you know, the one that tells you how hard the class/race etc you chose is to play? Guess what it said: LOW DIFFICULTY!!!!



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  27. #147
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    Default Re: Ahhh, let's see . . .

    Wonder what will happen.



    Before nerf monks:



    Did sub rogue damage.

    Tanked sub plate

    Could solo







    Now



    Do sub rogue, warrior, beastlord, ranger damage

    Cant tank

    Cant solo







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    Default Absor, Have mercy....

    Posting here in the hopes that Absor does come back to see any additions....





    Dear Absor,

    With your post above that mentions that the Monk Mitigation was not fixed to your satisfaction, we have been waiting hopefully and breathlessly for some sort of response from SoE. Even something like " We are looking into it still..", or " This is tougher than our programmers thought..." or " We have decided to leave well enough alone..." would be better than this silence. After today's patch, with still no reference to our agony at not being able to play the class we love in a game we love, I implore you to respond somewhere and let us know what is in store for the Monk community.



    Sincerely,



    Baroness Sarita Couerdegriffawn

    60 Grandmaster

    Quellious Server

    Officer in Moonlight Knights




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  29. #149
    Guest

    Default Re: From the D&P panel at Fan Faire

    What about the changes you made to the pally class that were undone right away. You said those only affected 5% of the players and didn't have the effect you intended. This is from the developers corner:

    **QUOTE**

    Upcoming changes to Slay Undead

    There has been a change to our plans for Slay Undead. The quote below supercedes the message we posted earlier (still shown under the quote).





    Over the last day, we've received a great deal of feedback and concern over the proposed Slay Undead change. We've put a lot of thought into the issue, and decided to hold off making any changes to Slay Undead for the foreseeable future.



    Slay Undead will continue to work in exactly the same way, and deal the same damage it does on live servers currently, and remain at that balance through level 65. Damage caused by Slay Undead won't increase post-60, though Paladin melee damage in general will continue to rise as you level up. There will be no defense penalty imposed while using this skill.



    We'd like to apologize for any undue frustration this has caused you, and we appreciate the feedback that was sent in. This change was well-intentioned, but we realized we were focusing too much on the potential of the top 5% of Paladins, and while the solution was reasonable for that sub-group, it wasn't appropriate to apply across the board.



    Thanks for your patience,



    Rich Waters

    Lead Designer, EverQuest

    **END QUOTE**



    Why is the monk issue so different?


    ~Feebil Mynded~


    ~Druid 55th LvL~


    ~Legends of Honor~
    </p>Edited by: <A HREF=http://pub35.ezboard.com/bmonklybusiness43508.showUserPublicProfile?gid=fee bilmynded>Feebil Mynded</A>* at: 12/4/02 6:01:25 am

  30. #150
    SkyKungfu
    Guest

    Default Re: From the D&P panel at Fan Faire

    Another 3 weeks gone and nothing, fuck you Sony and your BS CS.



    /rude



    Sky


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