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    Ex-Druid Monk-in-Training
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    Default new cotf 2 hand blunt

    has anyone one done any parseing on the new cotf 2hd blunt ?

    http://everquest.allakhazam.com/db/i...ml?item=113484


    MAGIC ITEM LORE ITEM NO TRADE
    Slot: PRIMARY
    Skill: 2H Blunt Atk Delay: 23
    DMG: 230 Dmg Bonus: 26 AC: 161
    STR: +47+26 DEX: +53+29 STA: +45+25 CHA: +39+22 WIS: +34 INT: +34 AGI: +39+22 HP: +5882 ENDUR: +5824
    SV FIRE: +105 SV DISEASE: +105 SV COLD: +105 SV MAGIC: +105 SV POISON: +105
    Combat Effects: +11 Shielding: +5% Spell Shield: +5% Avoidance: +12 Accuracy: +14 Stun Resist: +5% Strikethrough: +5% DoT Shielding: +5% Attack: +61 HP Regen +7 Damage Shield: +6 Spell Damage: +32 Damage Shield Mitigation: +4 Heal Amount: +32
    Required level of 100.
    Effect: Strike of Venom VIII (Combat, Casting Time: Instant)
    WT: 4.0 Size: LARGE
    Class: MNK
    Race: ALL
    Slot 1, Type 8 (General: Raid)
    Slot 2, Type 20 (Ornamentation)

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    Quick and dirty parses ran on new 2hb monk. All things being equal with 225% haste and FoF running throughout. This was done in beta and, like all my parses, this was autoattack only, no kicks, no special attacks, no nothing.


    rof t4 1hb/ rof t4 h2h
    /GU Test One Hundred Three in 599s, 10364k @17302dps --- Me 10364k @17302dps

    /tell Me Me -vs- Test One Hundred Three: -- DMG: 10363963 -- DPS: 17302 -- Scaled: 17302 -- Crush: 6196939 -- Punch: 4062942 -- DirDmg: 104082 -- Non-crit rate: 76.8% -- crit rate: 23.2% -- Attempts: 5798 -- Hits: 4699 -- Missed: 1099 -- Accuracy: 81% -- Avg Hit: 2205 -- Max hit: 4987 -- DMG to PC: 0



    vulak 2hb
    /GU Test One Hundred Three in 600s, 8052k @13420dps --- Me 8052k @13420dps

    /tell Me Me -vs- Test One Hundred Three: -- DMG: 8052089 -- DPS: 13420 -- Scaled: 13420 -- Crush: 7982236 -- DirDmg: 69853 -- Non-crit rate: 78.2% -- crit rate: 21.8% -- Attempts: 2057 -- Hits: 1672 -- Missed: 385 -- Accuracy: 81.3% -- Avg Hit: 4815 -- Max hit: 11813 -- DMG to PC: 0


    new 2hb cof t1
    /GU Test One Hundred Three in 600s, 10588k @17647dps --- Me 10588k @17647dps

    /tell Me Me -vs- Test One Hundred Three: -- DMG: 10588456 -- DPS: 17647 -- Scaled: 17647 -- Crush: 10488356 -- DirDmg: 100100 -- Non-crit rate: 75.8% -- crit rate: 24.2% -- Attempts: 3031 -- Hits: 2473 -- Missed: 558 -- Accuracy: 81.6% -- Avg Hit: 4281 -- Max hit: 9649 -- DMG to PC: 0

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    So glad to see viability in 2 handers, but appears to be only the fast, <23 delay ones.

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    useing the 2hd blunt this is full burn mode with rk3 raid buffs bard and shamy in group no zerker or beastlord in group.

    Luclin on 10/24/2013 in 48sec

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    Chumpp + pets
    --- DMG: 5734530 (7.77%) @ 139867 dps (119469 sdps)
    ------ Chumpp:
    --------- Total: 5698128 -- Kick: 2351968 -- Crush: 2335139 -- Strike: 623479 -- DirDmg: 387542
    --------- Normal rate: 72% (57.6% of DMG) -- Critical rate: 28% (42.4% of DMG)
    --------- Attempts: 305 -- Hits: 282 -- Misses: 23 -- Defended: 0 -- Accuracy: 92.5%
    ------ Chumpp`s pet:
    --------- Total: 36402 -- Hit: 32813 -- Kick: 3589
    --------- Normal rate: 100% (100% of DMG)
    --------- Attempts: 85 -- Hits: 50 -- Misses: 13 -- Defended: 22 -- Accuracy: 79.4%
    --- DMG to PC: 65633 @1930dps

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    Last edited by Chumpp01; 10-25-2013 at 04:58 PM.

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    omgwtf2hb


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    The group CotF 2 hander is parsing about the same as the tier 3 RoF hth combo when I ran an 8 hour parse also.

    This is allowing me to now at least tank the trash in the new heroic adventures. Can finally get some use out of the over powered wizzy merc on my shaman box account.

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    How do you guys feel about this 2hb ?

    We're starting to get DH loots fairly often so this is a viable loot. I'm currently running with RoF T4 and T3 h2h but don't think I'd see any gains in dps? ??

    I need a boost to catch up to the rogues who are running with CoTF weapons .... damn gnomes ....

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    It might be situationally better, but the auto attack parse I did on a guild hall dummy was under that of my t4 class h2h and t4 1hb. (fyi I still mostly cleave stack, which might be a factor) about 17k-ish vs 18k-ish. Since its close, it might be better with a destructive force burn or with riposte while tanking.

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    I definitely use it on events where we don't have our strat down yet. If the shit hits the fan and I end up with adds or the occasional boss, the bonus to survivability outweighs the slight DPS discrepancy.

    Also, I've seen monks top the parse using 2h. With 3 other monks in the raid using DW T1s.

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    Thanks Mris, That's exactly what I was hoping to hear. Looks like I'll put my name in for the next one that drops.

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    I have the 2HB Disciples Dragon Staff (188/23 w/ +16 Dam Aug) and I am wondering how I compare 1H weapon ratios to determine if the 1H weapons would be better.

    I have a +8 Dam Aug and a +4 Dam Aug I could put in the below weapons:
    H2H Fused Coral Claw 94/18 (102/18 w/ +8 Dam Aug)
    1HB Bleakwood Tonta 87/18 (95/18 w/ +8 Dam Aug) and
    1HB Laconic Edged Pincer 101/25 (105/25 w/ +4 Dam Aug)

    From the above, I take it that I would want to use the 2HB when I am doing the tanking. If I'm not tanking, would any of the 1H's work in a combo that would out-damage the 2HB?
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    I would do some parsing Chanzan, but the closer you get to 105 and the more blunt and 2hand blunt aa's you get the better the dragonstaff will be. At 105 with max aa I use 2hb almost exclusively. It tanks better and dps's better. Certain burns favor the 1handers, and I haven't spent the time to figure out the maxes, but it's close enough now that I don't bother switching. I'm using Staff of the Indagator with the 18 damage aug for 2hb (211/23) and Tritum + 11 dmg aug (127/18) plus Voracious + 10 dmg aug (111/18) for 1handers.

    So you can see that my T2 (group) 2hb regularly outparses a weapon setup that is a raid teir above it in the primary plus an equivalent tier'd weapon in the offhand.

    The weakness of your damage augs doesn't help your 1handers, and I'd throw that Laconic Edged Piercer as far into the void as you can. That delay makes it nothing more then tribute fodder. Even the 1hb's from the new expansion that are 22 delay are not worth camping or buying (including Ferio - the CotF rare - it gets outparsed by CotF Tier2 group 1handers that are 18 delay).
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    Thanks Vanni, I appreciate the information. I'll go stand in front of a dummy (not a mirror this time, I swear) and let auto-attack go crazy for an hour or two and compare them against each other.

    But I am pleased to hear that the 2hb are on pare with 1h'rs. I've generally used 2hb's because I feel that a monk should either be pummeling stuff with his bare hands (not a viable solution in EQ from my understanding) or pummeling stuff with a stout wooden stick.

    Again, thank you.
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    I have COTF, not TDS and I'm 98.

    What's the best non-raid 2hb I can get?


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    Quote Originally Posted by Nedrom View Post
    I have COTF, not TDS and I'm 98.

    What's the best non-raid 2hb I can get?
    Narus' Staff would be the best one you could camp. As a bonus, the mission that drops it also drops a 16 damage 2h aug, and is fairly easy. However, that and the Disciple's Dragonstaff are both req 100.

    Strength of Valor is req 98 and somewhat lower delay than most general purpose 2handers. Not sure if it's worth your time to camp, though. I'd try to get 100 and get the monkly stuff, personally. (Dragonstaff is vendor bought, so easy to get.)

    Note that there are also the raid quality expansion-wide drops from TDS, which are attunable and req level 100. But they won't be cheap, and TBH, I'm not sure how they stack up with the 2h being normal (non-monk) delay. (There are lesser versions of these from CotF, but again, very rare/expensive, and they'd be worse than the TDS ones.)

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    Cerulean Crystal Hammer is the name of the TDS super rare BTW. It's not on Alla, apparently, but it's on Magelo.

    http://eq.magelo.com/item/141494

    And it's not as slow as I thought. 283/30.

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