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    Default Epic, Instaclicky, and the new Bard buff box...

    Knowing Verant's knack for being the poster children of unintended consequences - is any one else worried that one of the great uses of our epic - instaclicky 'junk' buff for AE debuffing mobs - might get smashed by the nerf bat with the new Bard song buff box?



    Might make gobby earrings and ToV quest boots suddenly more valuable if they can force the monk epic to overwrite in the main buff box.


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    Default Re: Epic, Instaclicky, and the new Bard buff box...

    ... you use your epic effect for a 'clicky' buff? I didn't even know you could do that, thought the AoE dispells ignored song-type spells.



    Anyway, in any case the Gooblie earring is still useless since it doesn't stack with the epic effect at all. The coldain ring is still the best choice for an easy clicky with a useful effect.



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    Default Yup

    The epic effect always acted like a junkbuff. I used it in zones where jboots didnt work.


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    Default Re: Yup

    Grim Aura (the Gobby ear effect) and Firefist (the Velious Boots effect) are both overwritten by the epic effect. However, they last a lot longer than the epic effect does, and so are great 'placeholders' when you're buffing up before fighting a dispelling mob. Clear all your buffs, load up Grim Aura or Firefist as your first buff, periodically refresh it as you're getting buffed, and when the fight starts, your epic is conveniently in your first buff slot. It's a hell of a lot easier than hammering your epic for the 15-30+ minutes it takes to get all your buffs up, and it makes our velious quest boots a bit more than useless.



    First used this against Faydedar whenever we did druid epics, and I use it now as my guild fights mobs like Gozz and Telk.


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    Default Re: Yup

    I've always used my epic for the same purpose, except I had a ranger use their lame wannabe atk buff on me to use as a placeholder since I didn't want to cary around PoG boots.



    And yeah, I'm worried about the same thing <img src=http://www.ezboard.com/images/emoticons/frown.gif ALT=":(">



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    Default Re: Epic, Instaclicky, and the new Bard buff box...

    So far, Celestial Tranquility is not flagged for the short duration buff box, even on Test. Jonathan's Whistling Warsong IS, so those using Whistling Fists/RotWF for junk buffs ARE affected...



    In any case, don't most mobs now Dispell in a random order? If so, getting 15 'semi perma' buffs + 6 junk (Bard Songs) may actually HELP avoid getting the important one(s) wiped out.



    Incidentally, I noticed while checking this out on Lucy, that there's supposedly some other MNK gloves that have Celestial Tranquility ... probably a bug or a bad submission, but who knows?



    lucy.fnord.net/item.html?id=12623




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    Default Re: Epic, Instaclicky, and the new Bard buff box...

    I use bard songs and epic for junk buffs on dispelling mobs that are indoors and yeah, I'm kinda worried about what to do with the new box. As far as dispelling order goes, no it's generally not random. Most of the time your first slot is dispelled or your most recent buff will get dispelled but that's not often.


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    Default Re: Epic, Instaclicky, and the new Bard buff box...

    It's moot really once you start grouping with an SoV enchanter. Unless they do flag it for the buff box, would be disgusting if it stacked with SoV =).



    When I have vallon, I use Grim Aura, and it bascially compensates for the bit of attack lost from losing celestial tranquility.




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