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Sauria Soulfarer
03-11-2004, 06:43 AM
is a guide to stat-enhancing food and drink and how to manage your use of them so you don't have to spend a fortune.



There seems to be a lot of rumor and misunderstanding (even amongst seasoned players) as to how to use these effectively. I hope this guide will help clear up how to use them...and you want to use them, right? Of course you do! Who wouldn't want +10 to all saves on that next dragon fight that doesn't take an equipment slot...these were charms before there were Charms, and they are equally baffling to a surprising number of players.



First, basic info on ingame consumption of Food and Drink.



With the normal passage of gametime, your character gets hungry and thirsty. How often varies slightly by race (VAH for example have been mentioned as consuming faster than other races naturally.) This can also be modified by AA such as Enhanced Metabolism. When the time comes, the game searches for the "first" food or drink in your inventory and deletes one. If the game tries to make you eat or drink and there is none, you start getting "hungry/thirsty" messages and experience side effects, on mana and hp regen for starters.



EQ searches for food and drink to consume by slot number from 1 to 8 (left column top to bottom, right column top to bottom,)

1 5

2 6

3 7

4 8

and similarly within any bags in those slots. (For a time it seemed to go wonky and the pattern inside bags was rows then columns ie 1-5-2-6-3-7-4-8 but I think that was fixed possibly.)



How often the natural process of eating and drinking ocurrs is determined by the one stat that all food and drink has, duration. Courtesy of the fine folks at EQTraders (http://www.eqtraders.com/articles/news_page.php) here is a table of duration indicators: (there is debate over the highest values)



This is a miraculous drink! (180? minutes)

This is an enduring drink! (150? minutes)

This is a flowing drink! (120 minutes)

This is a lasting drink. (90 minutes)

This is a refreshing drink. (60 minutes)

This is a drink. (30 minutes)

This is a whistle wetter. (15 minutes)



This is a miraculous meal! (180? minutes)

This is an enduring meal! (150? minutes)

This meal is a feast! (120 minutes)

This is a banquet size meal. (90 minutes)

This is a hearty meal. (60 minutes)

This is a meal. (30 minutes)

This is a snack. (15 minutes)



For example, if you just have meal-rated food on you and go about your business, you will automatically eat a piece of it every 30 minutes. Now you can right-click on food/drink and consume it deliberately but while the durations pile up, the benefit you get is halved (ie, right click 6 meals, you won't get hungry again for 6*30/2 or 90 minutes. If you have long lasting items like Fish Rolls and Fuzzlecutter Formula (both cheap and long lasting) and you force-feed till you get the "cannot eat/drink or would explode" message, then it will be quite some time before eating and drinking ocurr naturally. This is the key to protecting your stat enhancers!



Important note: you gain nothing by right-clicking on stat food! You only gain stat from it by its forward position in your inventory, right-clicking (force feeding) stat food only makes it go bye-bye. And it's expensive!



As mentioned above, inventory slots (and slots in a bag) are numbered left column down and right column down like this:

1 5

2 6

3 7

4 8



I keep a stack of Fish rolls and Fuzzlecutter in open slots 2 and 3, where I can periodically right click to keep myself full all the time (so I won't consume the stat items.)



I have 2 sets of stat food in separate bags, when I want them to be active I move the appropriate bag "in front" of the normal items (to slot 1.) You know you have them in the right place when you see your stats go up and down by moving the bag. There is better in GoD and Elemental planes but this is what I use...



1...Combat: Grobb Liquidized Meat, (http://everquest.allakhazam.com/db/item.html?item=15577) Hero Sandwich (http://everquest.allakhazam.com/db/item.html?item=17453)

2...Resists: Kaladim Constitutional, (http://everquest.allakhazam.com/db/item.html?item=15326) Holy Cake (http://everquest.allakhazam.com/db/item.html?item=21891)



I also keep in the bank a 3rd set for tradeskilling (WIS is my stat of choice)



3...Qeynos Afternoon Tea, (http://everquest.allakhazam.com/db/item.html?item=15152) Pouch of Kejek Catnip (http://everquest.allakhazam.com/db/item.html?item=22201) (Hint...cherries for Miranda)



Nice thing about having the stat food/drink in a bag is, when you don't really need the benefit (not actively exping/raiding) all you have to do is move the bag "behind" the normal stuff and it is safe without having to force-feed. I move my stat bag back and forth between slots 1 and 5 (top left and right) which has the effect of switching the stat food in the bag "on and off." When it's off (ie the normal items are "in front" of the stat items) you don't have to worry about clicking the fish rolls and fuzz all the time.



When you want the benefit of increased stats, start by right-clicking (stuffing) the normal stuff until you can't anymore...then move the stat items in "front" (in my example above, move the bag with the stat items to slot 1.) Remember to periodically try to eat/drink the normal things, every 20 minutes or every few fights...so you don't accidentally eat the stat enhancers.



Don't do the math and figure that you have 2 hours before you need to stuff...stuff periodically and get used to seeing "you cannot consume..." because every once in a while you will eat a fish roll and drink a Fuzz, and it's all good. Don't count on remembering to stuff in 2 hours...you will be sorry when that 1kpp Bucket of Crab Legs poofs from your inventory. Treat the long duration of the stuffers as a safety net, but stuff periodically, develop the habit.



Also remember, when you don't need the stats (when not actively fighting, resisting or tradeskilling) move the bag out of that front spot, then you can stop stuffing and your normal items will last their full duration. You don't have to stuff the whole time you're ingame...just move the bag. I'm also not saying move it back and forth between each fight...there is no need to. Just manage your resources wisely. Entering an LDoN/starting an exp group/joining a raid? Move the stats up and start stuffing every few minutes. Done? Move it to a safer spot.



Note, in trader mode (for those of us who don't use mules for Bazaar) you do not consume while in Trader. Of course even you did, you certainly don't need stats...tuck the good stat food/drink safely away.



This is of course moot if you have too much plat and think this sounds like a pain. I stock plenty of stat drink in Bazaar, look me up <img src=http://www.ezboard.com/images/emoticons/wink.gif ALT=";)">



Final note, you only derive stat benefit from an item's position of being "first" food or drink in your inventory. There is no benefit in right clicking stat food! All stuffing with stat food or drink does is make it go away, aside from the duration effect before you next need to eat or drink, and there are wayyyy cheaper ways to do that. Fish Rolls (tradeskilled Baking trivial 135, and now fresh fish and bat wings can both be bought in PoK, don't even have to handle bait) and Fuzzlecutter (from Ping in West Freeport newbie grounds tent) are the best stuffers for your money.


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Junu Peeth
03-13-2004, 09:08 PM
<blockquote>Quote:<hr>Fish Rolls (tradeskilled Baking trivial 135, and now fresh fish and bat wings can both be bought in PoK, don't even have to handle bait) and Fuzzlecutter (from Ping in West Freeport newbie grounds tent) are the best stuffers for your money.<hr></blockquote>

I haven't checked the price but the spring crystal (summon food) and the similar one for summon water from any alchemist might be a cheaper alternative to those. Dunno and too lazy to check.


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Gojirra Monk
03-13-2004, 09:44 PM
I use my Shovel of the Harvest. Even if I someday get a GSot4W, I'll still keep that shovel around just for free food. Also, if you use expensive food, spend the three AAs for improved innate metabolism. With Metabo3, I go through a stack of Grobb drink in a couple of months.


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Damudge Deeler
03-15-2004, 02:00 PM
This is a great guide.



I saw a cragbeast item today in bazaar, and the stats were outrageous. The price was not that bad.



I think I need to look it up.


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Ahayell
03-28-2004, 04:19 PM
For Iksar monks, saving your stat food is even easier.



I have a hotkey linked to one of my movement keys. /doability , followed by /autoinv. Every time I turn left, if forage is up, it forages and drops the result, if any, into a main inventory slot. My inventory is visible on my UI, so I right click any food or drink. If I can't eat or drink any more, I drop it, destroy it, or give it away.



In most zones, I forage more than enough to save my stat food.



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Fenrish
03-28-2004, 11:55 PM
just watch out when you are in zones like PoInnovation where you can forage only items and stuff.


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