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ROFL Lyndar
I actually tend to agree with the movement speed idea. Though thats not the balance issue they are dealing with. The issue was that Monks could already output massive amounts of damage over plate classes, and they were also tanking as well as a plate class... whats the point of playing a plate class then?
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To me, the above is te problem. Your average Monk WAS NEVER Tanking as well as a Plate Class. You seem to believe the opposite, but (as many Monks asked, and were never answered) never was a log posted of a Monk and a Warrior/Paladin/etc. with SIMILAR gear for their level showing that a Monk DID IN FACT outtank said Plate Class.
The examples often sited were 'Average Warrior' versus 'Uber Monk'.
Personally, I'd like to see what you have to say to this (Taken from the Warriors BBS):
<blockquote>Quote:<hr> We've all seen stories about Mages, Shammies, Enchanters, Pallies, Monks, Druids and friggin everyone except for warriors being able to solo (no help at all, even buffs) Yeldema (a non-casting red dragon warrior mob in Western Wastes).
On October 20th, at roughly 11:30pm EST, [60 Warlord] Kalran (Barbarian) <Fury's Edge> on the Morell-Thule server stood up and proclaimed that he refused to let down his fellow warriors and therefore must slay the beast before PoP came out.
The night before I measured and did some final prep work. Standing toe-to-toe with him, and starting at 7592hp (full raid buffs), I melee'd him to a very disappointing 52% health. I knew there was some work to be done on strategy, but it was good to have a point of reference.
I started the fight self-buffed, with 5667hp. The fight took just over 13 minutes and included over 20 weapons changes (Primal bow, throwing boulders... bags of them, Silver Whip of Rage, Nevedaria's Horn, Blasphemous Blade of the Exiled, Bloodfrenzy... notice the disappointing lack of a slow proc that would've made the whole thing a lot easier?) This was the most insane fight I've ever been in. Non-stop summoning, enough spinning to make a carnival worker dizzy, and knowing that at any point in time I could get an add that would just totally own me made this one of the toughest fights I've ever been in (it ranks up there with Emporer Ssraeahza on a bad day). I won't give too many details about how the fight was won here... but you can e-mail me at kalran6@hotmail.com and I'll reply (slowly) with details.
Now, I'm sure there are better equipped warriors out there, and people that have all the gear I wished I had specifically for this fight (I'd kill for a willsapper and the Rune3 proc'ing weapon from Seru). And I KNOW there are warriors with better AA than me. What I don't know is... has anyone else done this yet? As far as I know, I'm the first... but I won't stake the claim without double checking in a warrior forum.
This was a goal of mine for over 2 years (to solo a dragon), and the list of people I have to thank for the help is too long to even start. I do want to give special thanks though to the people that pushed me and helped to get some of the more obscure items I used. Solwene, Meeke, Teiravalon... members of Triune and Fury's Edge... you guys simply rock. Even though I was repeatedly told it wasn't possible, you three came up with some insanely obscure concepts that helped a lot.
Good luck to anyone else that has the same goal of solo'ing a dragon. I highly suggest finding your own style, and hopefully with PoP coming out, you can find a more worthy opponent than Yeldema will become shortly.
Kalran Dragonsbane - After 2 years I finally added a surname (they wouldn't let me have Dragonslayer).<hr></blockquote>
And I don't know about you, but I sure as hell can't come that close to soloing a NAMED DRAGON in Western Wastes, and I doubt even the most Uber Monk could either. There are EXTREME CASES of Uber Players of ALL Classes, and if you compare any of these to the 'Average' player of a similar class, you could say ALL Classes are unbalanced and need a MAJOR nerf of some kind or another.
I'm sick and tired of hearing all the Plate Classes scream about how all Monmks tanked as well as they did. THIS WAS NEVER TRUE for the Average Monk.
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