Maybe I'm just stupid, but...

[Mrisda]

Does anyone have any PROOF that Verant was only trying to nerf the top 5%? Are we CERTAIN that was their intent, and they just fucked up? Or is that what we're saying?



I haven't seen any proof. All I know is that they said monks were too high on the defensive (or whatever), so they dropped us back. I don't LIKE it, but I'm reluctant to say that it was uncalled for until I get some proof it was only supposedly affecting the top 5% monks.



Just a thought, and I'm really curious. I'm wondering if I'm pissed for the right reason.


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[ssyxz]

Nobody has proof that it was intended for the top 5%. This was assumed because of the "monks tank as well was warriors" statements.



As I said in another thread, we have no idea what Verant's intent was, we just have the results that we see from our testing. I'm sure Verant has read some of these, and will make the determination if they hit the mark or not.






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[Mrisda]

That's what I thought, thanks for the quick reply.



I don't know if I should be pissed now, though...



I think the problem truly does lie in the top 5%, but maybe a tiny nerf to the rest would have served better. Well, whatever, it's done, I'll learn to cope.



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Its a point ive been trying to make or a while now. VI never said what end the nerf was intended for, but imo it was multiple lvls.


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they clearly stated that the nerf came from the few uber monk's who could tank nearly as well as a warrior.meaning they wanted to fix the uber monk's so they don't infringe on warrior's tanking ability's. Instead they just took the time to trash a complete class into a sub par rogue


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That has been the one request in all of my feedback to SOE (still waiting for response but not really expecting).



Asking WHAT the intended results were and or if the acheived results were the intended.



Citing that public opinion seemed to be that the highest end was were the problem was, but the patch seemed to have minimal effect on them, and a significant effect the farther you want down on the gear level.



My biggest suggestion is for everyone to as politely as possible ask this question. I would not even at this point suggest / request it to be changed. Rather request to know the intent and if they think they have achieved it.



With out knowing what the 'battle' we are fighting we can not fight it.



Peace





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"they clearly stated that the nerf came from the few uber monk's who could tank nearly as well as a warrior.meaning they wanted to fix the uber monk's so they don't infringe on warrior's tanking ability's. Instead they just took the time to trash a complete class into a sub par rogue"



I don't recall seeing anything remotely resembling this coming from Verant. Not at any point have they said anything that specifically relates to the 'end-game'



Daishan

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Zeb


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[Fopoodzo]

Well unless they intended to NOT nerf uber monks whilst nerfing <u>everyone else</u> from 1-60 defensively then they HAVE failed. <img src=http://www.ezboard.com/images/emoticons/tongue.gif ALT=":p">







This would have been a better solution.



<blockquote>Quote:<hr> "The actual solution is still to allow an innate mitigation for Warriors with Knights having a similar but lesser bonus. I would be just as happy to see the monk changes reversed and the Warrior/Knight enhancement put in." <hr></blockquote>







Or they could tweak monk damage up in the same proportion they've nerf monk defence downwards.



Either way changes melee balance without doubly nerfing monks.


</p>Edited by: <A HREF=http://pub35.ezboard.com/bmonklybusiness43508.showLocalUserPublicProfile?lo gin=fopoodzo>Fopoodzo</A> at: 10/22/02 9:22:20 am