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10-18-2002, 03:21 PM

I myself had to be careful which dark blue mob I chose for soloing before this last patch. However, a comment about the recent monk nerf from a SK friend was..." Heck you (monks) could solo even or better cons, and not many classes can do that..."

Errrrr...I have *never* been able to solo and even or yellow con, is this something that happens when I hit 60 and get all my super duper uber gear....? Or is this seriously what other classes think monks are capable of?

/confusion on

Pokiri

10-18-2002, 03:24 PM

I could...

at level 10 or so <img src=http://www.ezboard.com/images/emoticons/tongue.gif ALT=":b">

I have decent gear for a 60 and I don't know of any mobs that I can solo that are 50+.

10-18-2002, 03:25 PM

Maybe till 20 with a fungi or something....

I haven't been able to since like 20 or so.

10-18-2002, 03:29 PM

I am now 52 and I can't remember when I last soloed evens and yellows, it must have been below level 10 or so.

10-18-2002, 03:34 PM

I can still solo white and yellows and low,low reds....

with my bard. And he does it with ease and without taking any damage at all. I just have to med for about 15 minutes once an hour - good break to massage my hands once again to keep them from cramping up.

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10-18-2002, 03:36 PM

I've only been able to fight even or yellow mobs if I could find a reasonably stationary and solitary mob and then Bind Wound kite it. I would pull it a bit away from his spawn point, then beat it till I had to Mend and FD, let it go back to spawn point, Bind Wound till 50%, attack it again till I had to FD, rinse and repeat. This is of course assuming that I could BW faster than its regen rate, which with some mobs I couldn't.

I used this technique on Shrooms in DSP, Underbulks and Fungal beasts in Echo Caverns, and the stationary Giants and Yetis in DL. But I have not, as far as I can recall, been able to just wale on an even or higher mob since my lower 30's. Maybe with Uber items, but I bought all my own items as I leveled except for the fungi a friend lent to me from lvl46 on.

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10-18-2002, 03:38 PM

With barely adequate gear I could solo an even con shammy in CC at 30-32. I couldn't do it reliably (even with Mend), therefore it was not efficient, but it could be done after a couple of attempts and a lucky ID.

At 40 and with OK gear, it would have been out of the question. Even high blues were too hard to XP on.

Now, at 48 and with fairly decent gear for the level, the idea of soloing a level 48 mob gives me a chuckle.

Edit: Well, I suppose there are exceptions to any rule. Unless it has been changed lately, BW Wurms run slower than a person wearing J-Boots and running backwards. Also, due to their size, they can be hit from outside their melee range, so you can effectively kill them without taking any damage unless you get an add. But then, of course, the SK that raised the question could do the same thing, just like any other melee class could <img src=http://www.ezboard.com/images/emoticons/smile.gif ALT=":)">

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10-18-2002, 03:40 PM

Truth is that we can cannot solo anywhere near any of the casting PC's and actually a Rogue and Warrior can solo if they know what they are doing. Most peeps that complain about our solo power don't know how to solo. Have I soloed a even before - not at level 59 no but whne I was 50 sure - but it takes brains and alot of time. We solo the bigger mobs for the accomplishment not the experience. Could a Rogue solo that same mob - I say yes - if he wante dto hide and BS then melee a few zone and come back hide and BS again - eventually would kill it. We do same things we fight, FD(zone) bind and come back - etc. Might take 30 minute sto kill a mob. Level 60 Shammen for example can go thrugh DB and LB mobs 3 times the speed a Monk can. SHould we nerf them NO. Everyone has a role - increase or Damage output to make up for the nerf(we pray we can survive pulls). Best is to give us a 10% avoidance increase to make up for the mitigation and a small damage increase. We will be happy and where we shoudl be.

10-18-2002, 03:55 PM

hell, at 56, there is no way i could have solo'd something lvl 50 or higher with my current profile.

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10-18-2002, 03:58 PM

Bind Wound kiting...Hmmmm....

When I asked my question I had just straight out toe-to-toe melee in mind. Evidently there are ways to take on even cons, depending on the mob of course. I didn't know that! :P

10-18-2002, 04:07 PM

Well, I was never able to solo yellows or even... but for a while I was very close.

At KFC in SK thru your 20's you can fight rooks/harriers, no regen to speak of, don't even have to move, just fight til you can't, fd, stand, bind staring at his doubious face, then attack again.

I was doing this strategy on the Avocets a bit when I was just over lvl 30... problem was that half of them had a regen faster than I could bw, so those ones I couldn't do anything with.

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P.S. Started a newbie druid with a blackjack/forest loop and other medium gear, he can melee yellows still at lvl 8 without spells... up til lvl 7 reds were easy too. Its funny tanking when partnering.

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10-18-2002, 04:17 PM

Seen a 60druid solo/kite a ice burrower in WW once. I think they're yellow to a 60. Didn't get scratched at all.

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10-18-2002, 04:19 PM

I solo'd a High con High HP dark blue mob. Of course it required that I feign him off four times, bandage four times, use mend twice and use stonestance twice. Mind you this was prenerf I'd hate to try it now <img src=http://www.ezboard.com/images/emoticons/eyes.gif ALT=":rolleyes">

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10-18-2002, 04:20 PM

I can only think of two classes that could have a chance at soloing a yellow or (heaven forbid) a red above like level 38.

Necro (though risking death if spells get resisted and whatnot)

or a bard (running around, and around, and around, and around.....song 1, song 2, song 1, song 2 for a long time). Would wear my fingers out.

I think a druid might be able to squeak a yellow in kiting. I'd think a red would resist too much. Wouldnt' seem worth the time, they could have killed 4 blues by then.

10-18-2002, 04:24 PM

yeah i grouped with a 59 druid and watched her basically solo an ice burrower in WW, i couldnt do much so i just follwed them around. Anyway i cant remember the last time i soloed anything even con or higher with my monk... with my twinked 35 def sk tho i could solo yellows at 30ish. the gnomebots in sola. he used that 41 51 25str 10sta no drop 2hs from ME so he had some really nice damage, but i know i couldnt have done that with my monk tat that level simply because i didnt have the gear, monk being first character and all.

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10-18-2002, 04:28 PM

At 32 I would solo evens and if I was ready for a serious risk a low yellow (40/60ish most of the time)

But I doubt I could even think about that now. High blues hand me my hat now.

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10-18-2002, 04:41 PM

I could, and still can solo the Mist Panther in WL. Level 60 mob. I have to use MEND now though.

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10-18-2002, 05:18 PM

i could but had to becarfull where it was not every mob is the same for some reason i see alot of luclin mobs with just tons of hps where i can go to say the old world and kill faster now being that exp is based of the mob lv and if its a indoor zone/outdoor zone there is a bouns so a lv 30 mob in FM wont give as much exp as a lv 30 mob in paw and the ones in paw got less hps there is alot of old school players who have been on prekunark when there was no lv 60's ask around where the best the best place to solo at is ..for then even cons and in most cases a even is not worth all the extra hps you lose when you can mass kill blues iam hunting in ico at lv 36 and just mass killing blues nonstop at 1% or maybe the rare 2% exp per kill its faster then killing the higer lv mobs that might give a 2% to 3% exp gain not really worth with when you get more down time so unless there duoed up or getting pled killing them red cons stop's at in the teen's possably mid to low 20'2 in the iskar noob area unless you are really twinked big time and SCARYLARRY the comment from your friend was just ignorance comming trough from your sk friend ablought a class is all not much more to say

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10-18-2002, 05:54 PM

No, never past Level one (and I'm not kidding). Dark Blues (selectively) and Light Blues were it for me Solo-wise.

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10-18-2002, 05:56 PM

Was at level 15. The gargoyles in OOT. Died a couple of times too. =p

Pretty sure any melee with a fungi could've done it, my weapons weren't all that great that I remember. Actually I think I might've killed the Ancient Zelniak duder in MS in my low 30's and he may have still been one level red. I think that was feign and fungi regen to do it though, and that was definitely the last time I solo'd a yellow (MS in the low 30's).

My paladin could solo anything he could get root to stick to reliably, as long as it did not regen faster than the hat could heal, and didn't take him to half health in 2~ rounds of melee. I think the 'biggest' thing I solo'd that way was one of the level 40~ wurms in EW or GD, whichever, at level 49 or 50 (not sure what level it was, it was hitting around 120 top end though, was just to say I solo'd a dragon =p ). He could pretty reliably take 2 zols in LGuk that way, and if root was nice he could take a dar and a zol. Had to camp on the dar/zol a couple of times though when root was breaking early. That was 49 to 50 with a Mith 2 hander and pretty so-so gear for the time.

I add in the comments about my paladin, because besides feign tactics, which in my experience always make it more trouble than the xp reward is worth, any melee classes solo ability is tied in to gear/hybrid spells. Our solo survivability has always been the best due to being able to FD, but that is nothing new.