View Full Version : Is this possable? CA3 made my defence WORSE?
Mabee i'm crazy, but I recently saved the points for CA3 but waited until after the "nerf" to train it to test the before and after results. In any case, I parsed 30 kills pre-nerf with CA2 and 15 kills post-nerf again with CA2 and another 15 kills post-nerf with CA3 trained and saddly it seems as if my defence got WORSE after training CA3 today?! Um, unless this parser is showing the numbers wrong. (I'm using Yalp) Anyway, it seems like the mobs missed me more and the number of hits vs misses would seem to indicate that, but the % displayed makes me think i'm actualy getting hit more, mabee i'm just reading it backwards or something?
Could CA3 be broken and/or even giving a negative effect since VI went and jacked up our AC tables?
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Shidosha Yasnaki
10-16-2002, 11:51 PM
I thought I noticed the same thing. I bought CA 3 after patch after soloing for a bit to make the remaining 4 blues I needed. I think I was doing better before I bought it.
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hhmm, send an email or /feedback this one, that definatly doesnt look right, same type of mob right?
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I don't see the problem. Looks good to me. What is the problem again?
I don't really know what accuracy evasion and defense %'s mean.
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CA3 is suposed to be an improvement, when he got it, he was doing worse, theres the prob
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Thats what i'm saying, either suddenly the mobs got that much harder or the CA3 negatively effected my avoidance rather than helping it. The more people that send a /feedback the more likely they will look into the problem so if you have CA3 please send feedback.
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i am linking this to the Ranger Boards, hopefully helps to determine if this is a general bug of CA 3 or a directly related one to the recent monk changes.
Thanks for the headsup!
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Cybsled
10-17-2002, 02:24 AM
That certainly would be troubling. This should be something confirmed.
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Junu Peeth
10-17-2002, 02:39 AM
Examining the fields of Accuracy, Evasion and Defence:
Accuracy = HIT / TOTAL
Evasion = (Block+Dodge+Riposte) / (Miss+Block+Dodge+Riposte)
Defense = (Block+Dodge+Riposte) / TOTAL
To translate these terms then:
* Accuracy is the HIT %
* Evasion is how often Evasion related <u>SKILLS</u> fired as a percentage of the total number of non-HITs
* Defense is how often Evasion related <u>SKILLS</u> fired as a percentage of total swings.
Therefore:
MISS% = 1 - (Accuracy + Defense)
Comparing the pre and post MISS% (using the [ Total ] category)
39.21% (CA2) vs 40.35% (CA3)
1.14% more swings from your opponent missed.
Said another way, you were missed 2.90% more often than before you got CA3.
As a side note, in this sample your Block/Dodge/Riposte did not fire too well with CA3. If not taken into account it could make it look like CA3 (which only affects MISS) was screwy.
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If you cut out the kicks, you see the expected improvement. Conclusion? Too small a sample to infer anything.
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