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sojuu
05-06-2013, 04:59 PM
Did anyone ever hear any words on the new ranks of stonewall. Are they even worth getting or how much of an upgrade do they really apply. Right now this is at the bottom of my list of AAs to get slightly above acrobatics.

tanecho
05-06-2013, 10:25 PM
Acrobatics ftw

Nedrom
05-06-2013, 10:50 PM
I ran tests on beta and saw zero change with the new stonewall ranks.

I asked Elidroth about it repeatedly as did other monks and we were blatantly ignored.

So... Working as intended.

Gorkeyah
05-07-2013, 12:00 AM
It's not enough to make us immune to the problem. I'm not sure how you'd parse an improvement in it to prove whether it's helping or not, however.

Ishtass
05-07-2013, 09:39 AM
It's not enough to make us immune to the problem. I'm not sure how you'd parse an improvement in it to prove whether it's helping or not, however.

Let's see, we normally say DPS parses take about 10 hours to account for the RNG. Let's say you get about 12 attacks in per second. That would be 10*60*60*12 = 432,000 attacks.

So to be comparable, you need to FD a caster 432,000 times, both before and after the new ranks. Get right on that.

Gorkeyah
05-07-2013, 10:34 AM
Plus it only matters when you don't resist the spell, so you need a caster that always casts something unresistable over and over. heh

Nedrom
05-07-2013, 11:19 AM
There is no need to keep mystery around AA abilities in EQ. There is no reason why they can't just come back and say, every rank is abc% chance to do xyz.

Right now, until we get a % from it confirmed from a dev, buying this AA is right up there with Innate Charisma on the importance scale.

Kelefane
05-09-2013, 03:08 AM
Interestingly enough, Shadowknights got 5 new ranks of this making it 15, when Monks only got 3 new ranks making it 13 for them.

Something just seems odd and weird all around with us getting new ranks of it.

Nedrom
05-09-2013, 09:24 AM
Interestingly enough, Shadowknights got 5 new ranks of this making it 15, when Monks only got 3 new ranks making it 13 for them.

Something just seems odd and weird all around with us getting new ranks of it.

Has anyone in your class been able to confirm the new ranks do anything?

Rasputyn
05-09-2013, 06:44 PM
Interestingly enough, Shadowknights got 5 new ranks of this making it 15, when Monks only got 3 new ranks making it 13 for them.

Something just seems odd and weird all around with us getting new ranks of it.

This is an outrage. I demand 10 more ranks of Stonewall and 30 more ranks of Tactical Mastery for monks.

Kaliaila
05-10-2013, 03:27 AM
Ranks 1-5 each gave 10% chance for resisted spells to not break our FD.
Ranks 6-10 each gave 10% chance for resisted spells to not break our FD and 10% chance for unresisted spells to not break our FD.

So all things being equal Ranks 11-13 should each give a 10% chance for unresisted spells to not break our FD. Which would mean that 80% of the time we should not have our FD broken by unresisted spells.

As for the SK one, I want to say that their original one was not as good as ours, but I can't really say, but if theirs is identical to ours then we should also have 15 ranks.

Nedrom
05-10-2013, 09:26 AM
So all things being equal Ranks 11-13 should each give a 10% chance for unresisted spells to not break our FD. Which would mean that 80% of the time we should not have our FD broken by unresisted spells.

Allegedly...would be great if a dev could confirm.

Kelefane
05-10-2013, 04:01 PM
Has anyone in your class been able to confirm the new ranks do anything?

No, not at all. I just made a post on EGN, so we'll see if anyone replies. I was as baffled as you are when I saw new ranks of this AA.

Ishtass
05-10-2013, 04:15 PM
If Kal is correct, why should we be surprised to see new ranks? Seems there was room to improve. Proving that they help is another matter though.