My 1024x768 UI Layout - Final revision

[Goldmund TargaRi]

I know some people have been looking for a non-cluttered layout to use at 1024x768 resolution. This is what I've come up with so far, using elements of other peoples mods and some work on my own. Will be refining it further, but I like it so far.



EDIT - I no longer play EQ, and in fact haven't even used this UI for the last several months I did play hehe. I updated this so that it seems to be working ok as of 5/29/03, after this I probably won't be touching it again.



http://www.alltel.net/~mr81645/equi_new.jpg



Edit--This is what it currently looks like



Download the zip file here: Moro1024.zip (http://home.neb.rr.com/goldmund/moro1024.zip)



Here (http://www.alltel.net/~mr81645/equi_1152.jpg) is a screen shot of the 1152 version of the UI



Download the zip file here: Moro1152.zip (http://home.neb.rr.com/goldmund/moro1152.zip)



Player Info window: Based on Moku, modified quite a bit

Inventory window: Moku

Buff window: Based on Geddine, modified somewhat

Hotkey window: My own




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Nice!. its exactly what im using but neater =) (I'm using that big sidebar thing too)


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Looks nice.



Have you seen the effects box that applies a colored background to each affect? Blue for buffs, red for dot's and debuffs. I think it's the same size, but it would spice it up and add another visual cue since. You could then perhaps toss the buff bar. Without the buff icons, it might be hard to tell at a glance which effects are positive or negative. I think I've also seen one that combines icon/text/color all in one.


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[Goldmund TargaRi]

That would be handy Zikoz, I think I'll work on integrating the red/blue backgrounds next. However I think the buff icons are gonna have to stay for now, as I haven't found a way to click off a buff using the text display.


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Here's a link to a picture of it.



newui.technosapien.net/sc...window.jpg (http://newui.technosapien.net/screen_shots/072602/buffwindow.jpg)



This is geddine's. I got it through technosapiens newui.technosapien.net/index.htm (http://newui.technosapien.net/index.htm)



It combines all 3 effects, but it's a little large so I'm not sure how it would fit.




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[Goldmund TargaRi]

Hmmm, I really like that Zikok, thanks. It should be easy enough to change the font size and make the bars smaller so that it will fit in the same spot. I'll work on it this afternoon and post my results.


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[Goldmund TargaRi]

Ok.. I reconfigured the player window, resized the buff window, and I am really happy with the results.



Edit - removed image, see first post


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Would you post so we can download please?




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Very nice Moro! Sleek and functional. I like it a great deal.



How is the gameplay with your hotkey box? I have to admit, I was a little lazy and one of my concessions to ease of use was to become a little too dependent on my hotkeys. With such a small hotkey bank and with it located in the bottom corner, are you having any difficulties at all? I imagine with that set up you probably use the keyboard for hotkeys more than I do.



I wonder how it would transition to a higher resolution. I was 1024x768 for quite awhile (until hitsmode came out) and now that I have moved up a notch to 1152x864, I'm hesitant to give up my newly found bonus screen area.



Anyway, thanks for the update! It's one of my favorites so far. Please post some download info sometime if you get a chance.












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[Goldmund TargaRi]

Thanks for the compliments guys, though most of the credit goes to the mod authors I used as a template.



Here is a link for the UI layout. Open the readme.txt file in the zip if you'd like the window placement and viewport settings so you don't have to mess with it (otherwise everything comes up in default positions).



Edit--Removed zip link, doesn't work with new patch atm



Zikoz - Yeah I solely use the keyboard for my hotkeys, I find it's much quicker and less awkward for me than trying to use the mouse. If you'd like I can make some adjustments to this so that the hotkeys are larger and it looks good in 1152x864. Where do you prefer the hotkey placement?


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Actually, as I think about it, lower right is a nice spot. I'm just still addicted to the traditional hotkeys on the left set up. They're fine where they are, it will just take a few days adjustment.



If you could make an 1152x864, that would be awesome. I'm not sure how these things play out, but if you bump up the resolution and there's some extra space over there, then a slightly larger hotkey box might be nice. However, don't go to too much trouble on my account.



Thanks Moro for linking the download. I may try to put in your existing one just to get a feel for it. My first day with the new ui was a disaster with me shaking my head thinking "I hope they let me keep my current ui". Now that I'm seeing what some folks are doing, it's obvious that a lot can be done with it. Thanks also for having what looks like a read me of instructions in the zip. A lot of us non-tech folks are very appreciative when someone takes the time to explain things to us.






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[Goldmund TargaRi]

Ok, I got it setup at 1152x864 so that it looks pretty much the same. The hotkey bank is larger, with wider buttons so it should be a bit easier for mouse users. You can check out a screenshot HERE (http://www.alltel.net/~mr81645/equi_1152.jpg).



If that works for you I made a new zip file for it:



Edit--Removed link, doesn't work with new patch. Will put a new one up soon



Hope that works for ya


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It's terrific! Thank you. I just downloaded it. No time to play tonight, but I'll load it up tomorrow and have at it.



Thanks!






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[Lenardo]

here is my 1024x768 layout

still have to get the windowless chat boxes and stuff but you can see where i am at:





http://home.earthlink.net/~lbouffard1/lenuishot.jpg


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help!. My necro's spellbook isn't working. Even when I click the little book thing under spells. Is this a bug?







EDIT - nm works now... dunno whats wrong

Edit 2 - its me... can't see book while feigned <img src=http://www.ezboard.com/images/emoticons/wink.gif ALT=";)">


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[Junu Peeth]

Lenardo, could you post a link to where your targeting bar is downloadable from?



I downloaded one from somewhere but every time I target something it boots me to desktop.


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Junu, I saw a thread that explained why that's happening over at shadowknight.org . It has something to do with a conflict between the target bar and whataver character box you've downloaded. Apparantly, they are both altering the same file and it's causing crashing. Someone over there made another large target box that didn't alter this file and the problem was resolved. You might go take a look. If I get a chance, I'll try to find the thread, but I wouldn't count on it.


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[Junu Peeth]

I'll go check it out but I just recently found out what I was doing wrong.



To load a .tga (Texture) file you can't just use /loadskin dir_name you also need to camp our (or maybe zone). Anyway I have it working for now but I know that the long Target window is still having trouble with some people and spell gem icons also.



I will check out the shadowknight site.


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It's toward the top of the page, right after Peasley's pic



<a href="http://forums.shadowknight.org/showthread.php?s=40f672aab3449601d16e3e9beee9b7bb&threadid=3896&perpage=15&pagenumber=7

">description of large target bar crashing</a>








</p>Edited by: <A HREF=http://pub35.ezboard.com/uzikoz.showPublicProfile?language=EN>Zikoz</A> at: 7/31/02 5:41:21 am

I like the layout very nice work....

It may just be me ... but after last nights patch I cannot load the entire interface... the Group and Player xml files seem to be the culprits... I added each individual file to see which ones it blew up on....



keep up the nice work.


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I'd love to find a place to download your original buff bar. The little ones, with just the smaller icons and no window or text.


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Did you experience any problems in the bazaar? Using Goldmund's mod, the game crashed when I tried to use the /bazaar command.



I made two changes to this mod - I added a third chat window and put the window selector back on the screen. I seriously doubt that these two minor changes would cause a crash like that.



Any ideas?


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that looks familiar ;P



Original Layout (http://pub35.ezboard.com/fmonklybusiness43508frm16.showMessage?topicID=77.t opic)



The way you messed up the hotkey box might be fine for a druid, but as a monk, having it the way it was originally is preferred so much more.






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Hmmm well the only thing I can see that I did not add from your skin was the Inventory... I use a differnt inventory than yours:

( www.glandrake.com/equifil...merInv.jpg (http://www.glandrake.com/equifiles/inv/VeldinsSlimmerInv.jpg) )

( www.glandrake.com/equifil...merInv.zip (http://www.glandrake.com/equifiles/inv/VeldinsSlimmerInv.zip) )



Is the Inventory Screen tied to the group and player xml files?

If so this is where my error is comming from... if not... Not sure why it wont load with those two files in the machine.



Any guidance is appreciated



Edit.... Oh yeah... the target window would not work properly, when Used I would not show a target... Yes I had soemthign targeted, because I was doing damage to it... but No health bar or target name listed in target box.


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[Goldmund TargaRi]

/shrug



I said in the first post that I used elements of other peoples work and just made some changes to it. Never claimed that I did it all myself.



Hotkey box works perfect for me as a monk. I don't actually use the mouse to click on the buttons, that's a bit to inefficient. Keyboard works fine for that.



I need to make a new zip file so that this will still work post-patch. Will get that done this afternoon.


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ya i noticed ya changed the hotbox, was just giving credit where it's due for the 90% you didnt change.



I dont use a mouse either to click the buttons, but the way it was setup before you changed it made it very easy to swap ranged/ammo items for pulling, and prim/sec weapons for whatever. Whatever suits you though.




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I saw yours and found that it didn't meet my needs Moku because it wasn't as "neat". You have extra boxes in the play field and your chat box doesn't line up. Not everyone wants their inventory on the main screen, nor a hits box in the play field. This one is different in several ways. Besides, it's not like there aren't dozens that are close to yours anyway. There's only so much you can do without doing serious skinning.


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[Lenardo]

redid my Skin a Bit as of last nite



still debating on hitsmode or not so that will probably change , currently i have my hits to the left of my main chat and hits me on the right of my main chat. not sure if i like this setup thinking of going back to the 2 chat windows with all melee in right, all other chat in left....



Site Used:



newui.technosapien.net (http://newui.technosapien.net)



Modifications used:



advanced targeting by rombus for the group window(and only the group window)

geddine's target window by Geddine

Geddine's buffwindow by Geddine(the unknown spell bug is fixed)

Geddine's player window by Geddine

small hotbuttons by ? (author not listed)



made sure everything loaded up fine, then i removed all titles by editing the files and changing true to false for style_titlebar




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Lenardo, is your current set up just like the one you posted a screen of except you have added a third window for you being hit? Your setup is nice. What resolution do you play in?



A question for anyone. Does anyone know who had the mod that added your primary/secondary inventory slots to the top open bags? I thought that was pretty cool. It would be sweet to have a single little box with one or two bags and the two equip slots. Moku has her entire inventory shrunk down and that works but takes up a good bit of room.



I also can't find anyone who knows how to remove the extra chat input line from additional boxes.






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[Goldmund TargaRi]

Did you read beyond the first post Moku? The only thing that was not changed of yours is the inventory window. I never tried to steal any credit for anything, and I mentioned several times throughout the thread that credit should go elsewhere. I've edited the first post to make this a bit clearer.



There were several people asking for a clean interface at 1024x768, and I was simply posting how mine looked. Didn't mean to step on any toes.


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[Lenardo]

well look at the subject.....now guess what resolution i play at....


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[Lenardo]

oh one other thing, my mods do not have the new animation file so i HAVE to loadskin default in order to use the bazaar.....


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Ok. You're welcome for the compliment anyway.


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[Lenardo]

oops sorry bout that, thanks for the compliment <img src=http://www.ezboard.com/images/emoticons/smile.gif ALT=":)">





i play on a lcd screen, max reso is 1024x



my other computer has an old monitor, i play that one also at 1024x


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Any update on this, Moro? I was using your mod, and liked it a lot, was working fine for me, but I accidently overwrote it and don't have the zip anymore <img src=http://www.ezboard.com/images/emoticons/eek.gif ALT=":eek">


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[Goldmund TargaRi]

Sorry about that hehe =)



Here is the new zip file:



<a href=http://www.alltel.net/~mr81645/MoroUI.zip>MoroUI.zip</a>


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[tsunan]

Gold please set up a 11x8 setup.



Viewport on the 10x7 is near the same performace as 8x6. I imagine the 11x8 will be closer to the 10x7 and will give me a nice pile of extra space :)



Tsunan


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I have a question for Lenardo. In your screenshot it looks like you dont have a border around the buff box. I like the looks of that. I have the same mod loaded that you do, but I have the border still. What did you change to get rid of the border?


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Moro created an 11x8 and linked it on the first page of this thread.






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[Goldmund TargaRi]

Made the 1152 zip work for the latest patch again. Check the first post for a screenshot and a link.


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The new one works with the bazaar? btw, kudos to you and this theme (I know you didn't make it, but you chose some good stuff to steal!)




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[tsunan]

Which bit is making this unloadable?



Instead of us haveing to bug you constantly for the updates we could patch it up ourselves...



Tsunan


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I am <or was> using your ui for my monk, but no matter how i try to fix it , the skin wont load after the 8/14 patch. This is the best skin i have found and i would really hate to have to go back to the plain default. PLS PLS PLS update it!





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[Goldmund TargaRi]

Updated to work with the 8/14 patch now, sorry for the delay QQ You'll need to redownload the zip file again. To be safe, you'll probably want to delete all the files in your custom directory, and then unzip this into it.



The file that broke it is the EQUI_Animations.xml If you'd like to fix this yourself next time, open up the freshly patched file that gets put in your default directory. Open up the old animations.xml file, and copy out the portions that refer to the buff.bmp file. Paste them into the new (from the patch) animations.xml that you have open, and then save it into the custom directory.



Those directions probably suck, but it's not as tough as it may sound hehe.


</p>Edited by: <A HREF=http://pub35.ezboard.com/ugoldmundtargari.showPublicProfile?language=EN>Goldmund TargaRi</A> at: 8/15/02 12:43:21 pm

[Lenardo]

oh that is simple



fade to 100%

normal to 50%

lock the window


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Stupid question but can you give me a step by step way to load this up. Want the 11x8 one that the original poster made. looks really cool.


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Thank you very much for making your UI accessible to the not so computer knowledgeable people. I play in 1024/768. I downloaded this a few days ago and have been very happy with it. I know it was a team effort. Once again, Thanks Friends. <img src=http://www.ezboard.com/images/emoticons/smile.gif ALT=":)">


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