Unreal Tournament 2003 full version.

Anyone know what the deal is with the play disc? Is it copy protected somehow? I haven't had much success burning a copy of it...



What about people who want to make a back-up that own the game?


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[The Yanger]

Too bad so sad. not the first disc to be a pain in the butt to copy, and thats fine with me.

I've never needed a 'back up copy' of a game. If your disc stops owkring because you scratch it/break it you're not entitled to the game just because your stupidity ruined the disc. If you wreck your car does honda ship you a new one? heck no.


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Agreed, but I have yet to see a "car-burner", where as CD burners come with almost every new retail computer now days.


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Try using CloneCD, ive found it works well copying copy protected cds <img src=http://www.ezboard.com/images/emoticons/wink.gif ALT=";)">


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CloneCD worked to copy the disc, but thier is still some other form of anti-pirating that is keeping the game form loading from the copied CD. I am probably just going to have to find a CD crack or something along those lines.


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had same problem with diablo 2... never figured that out either....



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[The Yanger]

OR YOU CAN PLAY WITH THE REAL DISC.

Seriously, what kind of frickin moron are you if your CDs break that often? something tells me that you guys are really just trying to pirate the game.


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I am a poor college student <img src=http://www.ezboard.com/images/emoticons/wink.gif ALT=";)">


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Yang, get the fuck off your moderator high horse...he is in college, maybe he bought the game, mabe not, what does it matter?



he might have a room mate who steals his cds and scratches them because hejust sets them on the table...or hey, maybe his friend bought it and they want to play it over a LAN? holy fucking shit, it all makes sense


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[Lizzardlee]

Perfectly Legal to make a backup copy of something you own. Meaning CD cracks etc.. are legal as they let you use said backup. Not that they would ever be used for illegal purposes <img src=http://www.ezboard.com/images/emoticons/wink.gif ALT=";)">


</p>Edited by: <A HREF=http://pub35.ezboard.com/ulizzardlee.showPublicProfile?language=EN>Lizzardlee</A> at: 10/16/02 6:23:43 pm

Lizard, im not being sarcastic...i have this thing called a 'little brother' and this 'little brother' decides all the time to take the games from my computer or my desk, and take them to his...well when i find them, they are usually laying on his desk, and scratched from being laid on the table and being pushed around, so i make backups of all my games, and put those where he can take them if he so chooses...nothing i loathe more than him scratching a cd that i bought...except when he lends my games out and then stops being friends with who he lends them to...GAH!


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Good...if yang wasnt a stickler about warez on the boards, id have sent you a link to a place that you could get a crack...





er not that i know of one offhand or anything...yeah <img src=http://www.ezboard.com/images/emoticons/tongue.gif ALT=":b">


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[The Yanger]

Guys, I'm not on a high horse. I'm a college student who delivers pizza for a living alright?

I have all kinds of things that could easily break discs I have. it's called having some fucking responsibility. If your little brother can break your discs, there's nothing stopping it from happening to your original AND your copy. there is never a reason to have more than one copy of the game.

IF you can put the original somewhere that it can't be screwed with...GREAT! do that when you're done with it, oh wait that's the responsibility part again.

I don't care how poor you are, you obviously have a computer, you obviously pay at least 20 bucks a month for internet access, you obviously have a 3d card if you're trying to play UT2k3. This tells me you have money, if you're unwilling to spend that money on a game you want to play, you're undeserving of playing the game. it's that simple.




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Where do you go to school yang?


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Only reason I ever burn games is to play with my friends on a LAN, and for backups. Had to a couple times make quick burns during a LAN party for JK2 once. I always think it is a good idea to have copies of your games, because there are always the what ifs, the things that you can't control no matter how responsable you are.



BTW, how is the full game Blytzz? I was considering buying it, but I found the demo kinda bulky compared to UT. Is the actual game much different from the demo? Anything that you really like that would make you really suggest buying the game? Thanks for any input.


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I haven't played enough yet to coment. There are a TON of player models which is kinda cool tho.


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As long as someone does not distribute a game then you are able to copy it. Make a back up or whatever. So telling people to play the game as it was suppose is fine and is legal, but people have a right to back up any info in case of accident or whatever. Might wanted to find that out before you blast people.


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[The Yanger]

Actually I'm not fully convinced it's legal at all, but there's no way to be caught so it's a moot point. But if someone ELSE is harming your disc, then that's exactly what you're doing: distributing the copies to other people.

If your little brother borrows your copied disc, now there are 2 people with the game instead of 1. Ditto anyone else.

And I go to a community college whoever asked =p


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Why you so anal about this Yang??


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yang, you sir, are being a uh, difficult and you know it <img src=http://www.ezboard.com/images/emoticons/smile.gif ALT=":)">



you cant back out now because you dug yourself in and now, at least in my eyes, you look like a complete idiot...



i want you to do this, call up a big gaming company and say hey you live with your brother, you bought a game, is it ok for him to use it...do that and record the call and post it for us all, then maybe i wont think of you as such a little snot about games...They dont want their games available for free to the PUBLIC...if you are buying it and let one other person use it, that is no the public...



seriously, that and your console worship is mind boggling





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Yes it is legal.. At least in US.. as long as your intent is not to distribute the software to another party besides the buyer. IE like in the end of MLB broadcast.. Other wise Tape recorders, VCR's and so on.. would never have been made. Copying for personal has always been and always be legal for personal use. Otherwise almost every store across the country has been guilty of selling equipment to illegally copy tapes, CD etc for piracy.


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[The Yanger]

Xenix: they wont mind if your brother borrows your game, but they mind if he borrows it WHILE YOU ALSO HAVE A COPY FOR YOURSELF.

You can phrase it any way you like, but it doesnt negate the legality of that situation.

Pudgy: copying things illegally isnt the only use for said devices. HENCE the devices themselves aren't illegal.


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You know yang, if computer companies actually gave a shit, they would figure out a way to copy protect their cds...or wait, sony did that ad you could get around it using a sharpie...hahahahahahahahaaaaaaaaaaaa





i <3 stupid companies





now blizzard, theres a relatively smart company...no one really wants to play their games single player...and you need a unique cd key to play online...and tribes 2 also...you need a unique cd key to make an account....see what a company needs to do, is have you register online before the program will run, but im guessing after 3 hours of the game being out, a way around it will be found....





i think the best anti pirate technique is make games worth buying, ie eq, wc3, etc etc...not games that have 15 hours worth of fun then are crap


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Xenix1 said,

<blockquote>Quote:<hr> i think the best anti pirate technique is make games worth buying, ie eq, wc3, etc etc...not games that have 15 hours worth of fun then are crap<hr></blockquote>



So very true. I used to pirate games constantly until I finally realized that I was just ripping myself and others off as these companies are less likely to continue to make "good" games if they aren't making profit. So while I still download cds now, if the game gets more than a few hours of playtime then it gets bought.



After it gets bought though, I'll make as many copies for myself as I want. Yeah that means I'll make a backup copy because cds actually do get torn up from wear and tear.



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Pudgy Stout said,

<blockquote>Quote:<hr> As long as someone does not distribute a game then you are able to copy it. Make a back up or whatever. So telling people to play the game as it was suppose is fine and is legal, but people have a right to back up any info in case of accident or whatever. Might wanted to find that out before you blast people.<hr></blockquote>



Yang then said,

<blockquote>Quote:<hr> Actually I'm not fully convinced it's legal at all, but there's no way to be caught so it's a moot point.<hr></blockquote>



www4.law.cornell.edu/uscode/17/117.html (http://www4.law.cornell.edu/uscode/17/117.html)



I just found the link above after searching Google for a second. It pertains to the copy protection laws for computer programs. Of particular interest is "Sec117, (a), (2)".



As you can see the law fully allows the end-user to backup cds for the express purpose of having a "safe" copy.


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UT2003 is protected by SecuROM 4.83. I initially tried to use BlindWrite 4.53 [latest ver.] and created a .BWA profile as the tutorials say. Although some people seem to have had success with this method, it did not work for me. My copies installed but the play disc would not work. I found another way that works perfectly.



Using CloneCD v4.2.0.2 and Twinpeak v.02, I made a perfect 1:1 copy of my orginal play disc. I didn't even have to hide my CD-R and DVR-ROM drives.



There are even some sites that post the UT2003 .BWA files that you can simply copy and then don't have to worry about doing your own .



Then create a normal .CCD image in Clone CD v4.2.0.2 using a new profile [eg. SecuROM]. Change the profile settings to read at say, 1-4x, and amp. weak sectors etc. When your .CCD images are complete, fire up Twinpeak v0.2 and load the .CCD and .BWA files. This will yield a final set of .CCD images called "patched.ccd" etc. Use CloneCD in the normal manner to write the "patched.ccd" images back to CD at say, 4x. Verify that your backup play disc works. Now load the new retail patch that takes away the play disc and forget about it!<img src=http://www.ezboard.com/images/emoticons/pimp.gif ALT=":hat">



Cheers


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[The Yanger]

I'm locking this, mostly because there's no reason to bump a nearly year old post. Welcome to monkly-business =p


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