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Pliko
03-05-2008, 01:33 AM
I have some very crappy ears still (21ac 290hps 38ac 275hps) and plan on switching back to dual wield for the dps/hp boost, but with Metal power source I managed to crack 4k unbuffed and untributed (4024)

Not sure if Im the first one to do so without a shield, but excited either way:)

All I am missing to max my mod2's is 3 spell shield, 1 dot shield, 1 strikethrough, and :( 11 ): stun resist (need to find some ears with mod2s on them :)

Missing a elegant helm and using a bazu in hands, otherwise full set of elegant.

http://eq.magelo.com/profile/1347077

silenzhandz
03-05-2008, 01:39 AM
Grats, seems like a lot of hard work, but well worth it :)

Pliko
03-05-2008, 02:01 AM
I solod almost all of the AC Augs, including Coleoptera Beetle eye, FC aug, all the guardian shards, etc... It took about 5 days to gather up all the augs from past expansions, but it was kinda fun going back to those places.

The Shadowy Student is a harder solo than the Raelosian Acolyte Aemon or whatever in FC, surprisingly.

Fastin
03-05-2008, 02:53 AM
What is your max hit taken on white/yellow con gnomes/clockworks in Ship?

And if you have the time would you post a few parses of the fights, quite curious!

Thanks.

Jerone
03-05-2008, 08:06 AM
Very nice, a bit shy on the focus levels for my preference but a lovely profile :)

Pliko
03-05-2008, 08:10 AM
Yeah, I'm waiting for Solt belt for IB5 waist, and working on Eron's for Dodge 5, slowly but surely :)

Ughbash
03-05-2008, 09:32 AM
What is your max hit taken on white/yellow con gnomes/clockworks in Ship?

And if you have the time would you post a few parses of the fights, quite curious!

Thanks.


AC does not lower MAX HIT, only shielding lowers that. What AC does it make it so that when you get hit they are likley to hit for lower amounts. Damage form a hit is DB +(ran(1,20), DI). What a HIGH AC does is slant the random part to the point wher 1 is more common and 20 is less common.

Fastin
03-05-2008, 02:40 PM
AC does not lower MAX HIT, only shielding lowers that. What AC does it make it so that when you get hit they are likley to hit for lower amounts. Damage form a hit is DB +(ran(1,20), DI). What a HIGH AC does is slant the random part to the point wher 1 is more common and 20 is less common.

Thanks for the correction, late night in ship exping is taking it to me. Regardless, Pliko would you be able to drop a handful of parses?

Shukkex
03-05-2008, 04:42 PM
neato... knight friend of mine has been trying to get me to swap in some AC augs and slap in metal orb just to see what kind of AC of could get. been thinkin bout doing it outta curiousity... but damn it costs alot to swap out augs! haha

Maereax
03-05-2008, 07:06 PM
Grats man! I just broke 3k unbuffed on sunday (with only one piece of elegant). Felt good!

Benadebx
03-06-2008, 07:17 PM
Grats mate, that's a pretty hot achievement. :D I was planning on doing this (well, 3.5k was my aim :P).. got 5 shard of the guardians and then realised it would take a lot of money to swap all my augs round... and at the time I had 5k in my bank... think I may try it now for kicks tbh, got a mil doing nothing now. :D

But honestly well done, can imagine it felt pretty good being a plate class. :P

Souljahha
03-07-2008, 01:41 PM
very nice. I think there are only 10-15 monks who are over 3500 ac buffed even, so 4k unbuffed is a hell of an accomplishment

Vanayr
03-07-2008, 01:57 PM
Ya, you aint kidding. I cracked 3k and was all happy :mad: lol

Pliko
03-08-2008, 07:16 PM
Here is a parse of a reliquary guardian in AG near entrance. I tanked him until he died from ripostes. Took 1325 seconds, a little over 22 minutes

Tanking summary for: Pliko --- Total damage: 385814 --- Avg hit: 664 --- Swings: 2228 --- Defended: 901 (40.4%) --- Hit: 581 (26.1%) --- Missed: 746 (33.5%) --- Accuracy: 43.8% --- Dodged: 236 (15.1%) --- Parried: 0 (0%) --- Blocked:531 (23.8%) --- Riposted: 134 (7.9%)

Block 4 Dodge 4 with 8% dodge mod (not 8% block mod)

Hit breakdown (537 hits total)

Pliko - vs - A reliquary guardian
Attempts 2075
Missed 705
Dodged 221
Blocked 491
Riposted 121
361 256
437 17
514 13
590 13
667 23
744 28
820 22
897 16
973 19
1050 23
1127 18
1203 10
1280 18
1356 19
1433 14
1510 6
1586 6
1663 5
1739 4
1816 7

Kheibik
03-08-2008, 07:58 PM
that's sexy sir! 40% defended is pretty hot too!

Souljahha
03-08-2008, 09:23 PM
your hp scare me though vs those big ae's :) I'm more of the happy-medium belief.

Pliko
03-09-2008, 02:38 AM
I have over 19k hps, and Im using a 2hb... simply switching to dual wield will net an easy 500-600 hp gain. Considering Im just entering solt farming with my guild, I should hit 20.5-21k fairly soon with maxed Spell shield and maxed dot shield.

Klixarr
03-12-2008, 06:22 AM
That, sir, is hotness.

Souljahha
03-12-2008, 09:23 AM
I have over 19k hps, and Im using a 2hb... simply switching to dual wield will net an easy 500-600 hp gain. Considering Im just entering solt farming with my guild, I should hit 20.5-21k fairly soon with maxed Spell shield and maxed dot shield.

ah thought you were doing sof stuff too and when i saw magelo it showed like 18k... even max spell/dot shield means little when you get constant dots and 5-10k ae's... it helps, but won't necessarily save you. I just see the problem of too much ac vs hp with knights (pallies mostly) for far too long and hate to see any monks follow suit. I agree totally having a higher ac is huge for us now. I ended up tanking spindlecrank for last 20% this week, which I doubt I could have done at 2500ac 23k hp as easily... was a great time to use delay death, even though I don't think i ever went under 40%. Not something I choose to do, but when all the tanks have died and I have agro locked I'll tank vs wiping.

My point being we need both ac and hp nowadays. Not sure where the best medium is for monks in general. I wouldn't drop my 165 hp augs for 20 ac ones, for example.

Ughbash
03-12-2008, 10:34 AM
My point being we need both ac and hp nowadays. Not sure where the best medium is for monks in general. I wouldn't drop my 165 hp augs for 20 ac ones, for example.

I tend to value it as between 5 and 6 hp per point of AC.

Pliko
03-12-2008, 12:11 PM
max spell/dot shield means little when you get constant dots and 5-10k ae's

Actually, max spell and dot shield mean even MORE when you are getting constant dots and AE's

I would never downplay the spell and dot shield. Every single 10k ae you save 3500 hps, every single time a 5k dot ticks on you, you save 1750 hps, thats huge when you consider dropping mods for hps, really doesnt work.

I agree there is a balance between AC and hps that we have to aim for, but lets face it, us monks have more leeway than most classes. We can pop Impen to block AEs, we can epic, mend, delay death, etc. Even if i dropped 2000 hps I would probably outsurvive most on a wipe as healers go down.

I value 1ac : 5hps when considinger augs, for the most part. I wont sacrifice hps on AC for gear, because really we don't have many options to make that choice anyway.

30ac30hp augs, I would use over 165 hp aug. 25ac 25hp augs I would use over 125hp aug.

The real difficulty Ive seen is trying to keep endurance up, as most augs contain hps + end, and its hard to decide a value for endurance, especially with our current regen rates :-/. My end is lower than Id like, but luckily with third wind its plenty for almost all raids... now group situations is a different matter.

Pliko
05-31-2008, 03:50 PM
Up to 21k 4348 ac but the gains (in ac, not mitigation) are definitely slowing down. I made a magelo profile with SoF finished out and 4600ish looks like near-max.

Still waiting for testcopy to work so i can do some parsing

Souljahha
06-03-2008, 08:08 PM
cleric ac buff, CoS, bard song, war aura?

Topped out around 4400+ the other night, no metal orb (elemental) with bard song, no war.

magelo lies i'm at 21,600 hp or so & 3700 + acish unbuffed.

Seems like 4k ac is solid after that i agree it seems to diminish in usefulness.

Crouching
06-05-2008, 03:16 PM
I agree totally with 4k being the "sweet" spot for our AC. I've seen minimal gains post 4k.

Zarie
06-12-2008, 11:37 AM
A little late but I have not visited boards in a while.

Yup I am still around..who ever said I was not?!!!!!!!!!!

hello to many of you.

Be safe..

Zarie
A Rodcet Nife monk(ette) on Quellious.

Souljahha
06-12-2008, 12:04 PM
The other brightside of ac~hp augs vs hp ones is that they mostly seem to be much cheaper to remove for some reason. Many only require the XIV removers vs the XVII - XX ones. Gets old dropping 10-60k to move multiple augs around from one gear upgrade heh.