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02-22-2008, 04:10 PM
I just dinged 79 last night, and memmed WoF rk2. It seems like it's doing less damage than Clawstriker's Furry rk1.

I was seeing generally at least two of the hits landing for 2500+ with CF1. With WoF2 it seems like it's occassionally landing once for the 2400+ range, and the other much lower.

Obviously, I haven't had it long so I haven't been able to experiment, but I was expecting a noticable improvment.

Have I just been unlucky in my hits? or is there something else I should be looking into?

1: Skill Attack(369)
2: Skill Attack(369)
3: Skill Attack(369)

1: Skill Attack(288)
2: Skill Attack(288)
3: Skill Attack(288)

02-22-2008, 07:10 PM
Were you comparing hits on the same mobs?

02-22-2008, 07:22 PM
Yes, I dinged mid-katta mission. I will pay a lot more attention tonight when I'm on, and compare them.

02-22-2008, 08:16 PM
CF rnk II seemed to have a ~2400 max uncrit hit with champ running, higher if killing spree proc'ed. With WoF rnk II my max seems to be around ~2800 or 2900, over 3k with killing spree going. I'm guessing you are just getting owned by the rng.

02-22-2008, 11:35 PM
damage output varies with attack buffs too. WoF rk3 no buffs i hit max of 2797 or so, with ranger buffs was hitting for 3010 max. non crit. test it while atk buffed and not buffed.

I still think soe screwed up the firing rate cause CF3 almost never missed landing 3x and WoF still only hits once or twice far too often. At least from what i've seen.

02-23-2008, 11:45 AM
the spells are identical

there are no hidden accuracy or attack modifiers, the only difference from one spell to the other is the base damage amount noted above at the beginning of the thread.

anything else is just eyeballing numbers and you can't go by that alone for thinking if its hitting for more or not.

oh and ranger buffs wont change your max hit

increase attack only makes you hit for max more "often" not for higher

02-25-2008, 09:13 AM
Clawstiker 3 never hit 2500 unless it was a crit.

I think you are misremembering what clawstriker 1 hit for.

I replaced Clawstiker 3 with Wheel of Fist 1 and it was an upgrade.

02-25-2008, 01:18 PM
Over the weekend I did some testing, and yes.. WoF is better than CF.
I think my confision was that I was comparing CF crits with WoF normal hits.

with as many hits as we do, it's sometimes hard to connect the crit message with the actual damage. (for some reason i have them in seperate windows)

Thanks for the replies :)