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Lotwell
04-11-2006, 11:43 AM
So I've noticed that I'm eating way more carbs than is recommended and I'm eating only about 2/3rds the protein I should be. From watching my eating habits it seems to be the snack type food I eat is the culprit (fruit, low fat muffins, etc).

So besides eating processed protein bars, is there any high protein snacks that are low in carbs and fat? Having a bitch of a time finding something besides snack bars, don't really want something thats heavily processed.

The software I'm using is recommending 63.5g fat, 261g carb, 25g fibre, 111.6g protein (2100 calories). I typically hit or go over on carbs and have never (in 3 months) gone over on protein. During the last 2 weeks I've been even lower on protein and my weight has actually gone up a pound (which has me grumpy).

Soygen
04-11-2006, 12:22 PM
Beef Jerky. High in sodium though.

Ahatma256
04-14-2006, 03:15 PM
Tofu!

WiouXev
04-17-2006, 02:38 PM
Exactly what Soy said. Beef Jerky, Turkey Jerky, Bison jerky, buffalo jerky (no im not trying to be funny). The other jerkies have their pros and cons, i.e. buffalo is much more lean, but more expensive.

WiouXev
05-05-2006, 12:08 AM
but but but

STAY AWAY FROM SLIM JIMS

Fopoodzo
06-06-2006, 12:51 PM
Only problem with Beef Jerky (here anyway) is that it is SO expensive. It starts to make chicken breasts and protien bars look postively frugal.

Other than that tuna and Cottage Cheese.... although either will drive you mad eventually. :)

Other than that protien power, either as a shake or I know here you can get whey protien specifically designed to be used in cooking/added into to your food.

Lotwell
06-06-2006, 12:59 PM
I've had to just change around how I cook meals and make lunches. I'll toss an extra slice of chicken or ham into lunch and get a bigger steak (or whatever) for dinner.

There's also little things, oatmeal is fairly high in protein but super high in carbs, so if I have it as breakfast I just cut out a bunch of carbs later in the day. Milk is also pretty high in protein but it comes with lots of fat. Its all about that balance thing.

I found what you said to be too true, protein as a supplement is way expensive.

Oolapz
06-27-2006, 08:31 AM
Being a personal trainer I can reccomend some different options for high protein snacks, that I find to be very tasty !
Typically from this list, you won't get bored (that fast lol)

Eggs
Tuna/sardines/salmon
Cottage cheese
Skim Milk
Whey protein powder
All natural peanut butter (Smucker's brand is good)
Skim yogurt (tends to have about 1/1 ratio of carbs to protein)
Low sodium jerkies (can be expensive, and annoying to keep stocked)
Cashews, peanuts etc. (also 1/1 carb/protein with healthy fats included)
Lean meats, any.

The list can get kinda boring, but you can easily make lots of great foods/snacks from it.

Quanko
07-21-2006, 10:20 AM
How did Pork Rinds not make the list????

Oolapz
09-17-2006, 02:34 PM
Just because something does not contain carbs, don't mean it is good for people onna high protein diet !
BTW I hope you were joking about pork rinds.

Yieu
10-22-2006, 03:32 PM
That software is giving a dangerously low amount of carbs and a dangerously high amount of protien.

It should be 60-70% carbs, 20-30% fat, 5-10% protien (about 36 grams) ideally.

As for carb intake, you can substitute all white bread/bleached flour for whole wheat, eat more whole grains and less sugars.

The reason people blame carbs for weight gain is because they eat highly processed carbs and sugars, instead of whole grains.

WiouXev
10-23-2006, 12:58 PM
(Smucker's brand is good)

no its not.

nothing is natural about that brand. might taste good, but you're getting thick, sugary juice. Not jelly. Or PB. Its basically a creamy reeses peanut butter cup...

Nuts and ORGANIC peanut butter are good choices.

Lotwell
10-23-2006, 01:08 PM
That program recommends the 60/30/10 ratio when you are at your "ideal" weight. I knew it was fairly skewed as I was losing weight, but it worked as I am now "ideal" (whatever that means). As for carbs, I usually only eat whole grain breads and pasta's. Where does rice fit in on that? (minute rice, heh)

That whole "ideal" weight thing is pretty much BS though. I'm down to 188 and 6" tall (large build, big wide shoulders and chest) but I still look at myself and realize that I have blubber left over to lose, so I havent fully switched over to a maintenance plan. Going to look at some local gym's and fitness centers to start that whole toning and muscle bulding crap.

Tamsin Dyresoul
10-23-2006, 06:32 PM
Want low carbs? Beef jerky is for wimps. Make biltong!

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Biltong

http://www.3men.com/biltong.htm

Screw cooking meat :lol:

Oolapz
10-24-2006, 07:07 PM
Nutrition Facts
Serving Size 2 Tbsp. (32 g)
Calories 210
Calories from Fat 150

Amount/Serving %DV *
Total Fat 16g
Saturated Fat 2.5g
Trans Fat 0g
Cholesterol 0mg

Wu, Have you ever compared ground organic peanuts to this recipe?
Sodium 120mg
Total Carbohydrate 6g
Dietary Fiber 2g
Sugars 1g
Protein 8g
Vitamin A
Vitamin C
Calcium
Iron
25 %
12 %

0 %
5 %
2 %
9 %


0 %
0 %
0 %
2 %

*Percent Daily Values (DV) are based on a 2,000 calorie diet.




Ingredients
PEANUTS, SALT.

This is smucker's natural's recipe. It is as close to organic as you can get.
Below is a list of "organic" peanut butter breakdown to compare, so you see how incorrect your statement is, knocking Smucker's brand. The only difference in the recipes is a small 40 mg sodium difference, which in comparison to 2400 mg "reccomended" intake, is nothing.


Calories in Organic Peanut Butter - with Salt (Creamy)
Peanut Butters

Manufactured by Maranatha
Serving Size 2 tbsp (32.0 g)

Amount Per Serving
Calories 190Calories from Fat 144
% Daily Value*
Total Fat 16.0g25%
Saturated Fat 2.5g12%
Sodium 80mg3%
Total Carbohydrates 7.0g2%
Dietary Fiber 2.0g8%
Sugars 2.0g
Protein 8.0g

Vitamin A 0% • Vitamin C 0%
Calcium 2% • Iron 4%

Nutritional Units 5
* Based on a 2000 calorie diet

Yieu
10-25-2006, 08:26 AM
That program recommends the 60/30/10 ratio when you are at your "ideal" weight.
Ah, that's a good ratio and in the range of the RDA and other recommendation sources. But that ratio should be enough to take that ratio and lose weight, considering only whole grains and a majority of plant fats because they're lighter in consistency and generally unsaturated and lacking cholesterol.

And as for the peanut butter, organic salted > commercial brands like Jif.
Regarding taste as well as health. :)

Oh and for protien, boca burgers have a crazy high amount. 18 grams of protien for 1 tofu burger. 2 of those and you've had your fill of protien for the day.

Oolapz
10-26-2006, 07:48 PM
Soy protein is horrible for you. Lowers test, and raises estrogen.

Yieu
10-26-2006, 09:26 PM
Soy protein is horrible for you. Lowers test, and raises estrogen.
Yes, it raises estrogen levels, but though I haven't looked up any studies, I don't think it does it to the degree that it merits the word "horrible".

It has good points and bad points, I don't particularly care either way.

I don't think it's so bad to merit fearing from it absolutely, and I don't think it's so good to merit eating it in large quantities daily.

Taking it in moderation isn't going to kill you, and probably won't have that much negative effect.

Oolapz
10-26-2006, 11:00 PM
There actually are some benefits to males from soy, namely those suffering from prostate cancer. Having a large amount of testosterone which metabolizes into DHT (Dihydrotestosterone), can actually "feed" the cancer in a sense and enlarge the prostate further.
For men suffering with that form of cancer, having large amounts of testosterone can actually make their condition worse over time (due to the T metabolizing into DHT, which "feeds" the growth of the prostate gland).
Soy protein, with it's estrogen like effects works against this growth of the prostate... How? There are phytochemicals in soy, that when metabolized in the body, assist in blocking DHT from affecting your prostate gland.
In addition to that, there are obvious balances that need to be addressed in relation to the testosterone/estrogen balance in your body.
Well, raising estrogen as bad as it is for normal "healthy" men, will in turn lower testosterone by attaching itself to the Angrogen receptors in your body where T would normally bind. Altho some studies have contradicted eachother in regards to the possibilities of even estrogen causing prostate growth, in general I believe the average opinion is what I stated above.

So all in all, it does have SOME benefit...But overall, I would avoid soy unless you have a specific need to lower your T levels.

Soygen
10-27-2006, 08:44 AM
I'm in a constant battle to get people to eat Soy protein.

Oolapz
10-27-2006, 09:59 AM
Based on what?

Soygen
10-27-2006, 11:25 AM
My joke ----->





Your head---->

Stefin Fetchit
10-27-2006, 11:44 AM
That earned a Roffle :)

Lenardo
10-27-2006, 11:47 AM
soy just battles the women for that ...

look at his name oolapz....

now think "dirty" ...

Azith Evertoon
10-27-2006, 01:23 PM
Soy is also murder.

Beelzaman
03-22-2007, 05:19 PM
I hear Soy Sauce is the rave in eastern cuisine...

sorry, I had to do it

Delnatha
04-09-2007, 07:02 PM
The way to do beef jerkey is to make your own. It's cheaper and you have more control over what gets put into it. You can buy a decent food dehydrator for about $25. I used to make my own all the time.